RPG type 7vMiG-23MLU где пропадаешь???!!!you should delete your posts.
Wait,matej what you read and where ,,your post is very ambigues [i think i wrote it ok.]…
go be of some use kiddo and get me thoose flight manuals i requested.
savage-cabbage ,nop im not suprised that things ,mistakes,could happen in america or in russia or everywhere ,good quality missiles,engines, were found in russia at ordinarry dumps 😮 [to save money used for destruction of them-corruption 😡 ]also about nukes for recyclement protected by just barbwire,and 4 guards only….etc.et.c…….
F-14 is now out of service vere are its flight manuals,engine manuals etc… here plz?!?! :diablo:
In britain archives were open about how to build nuclear weapons [after 50 year period] and some interesting very precision manufacturing reading could be made untill they found out and closed them 😎 :dev2: i could go on and on,government decides if mig-21 manuals can be oppened for public or destroyed or stay closed,not MIG-23MLU not me not you…all else is treason,mig-21 is operated still in lot of countries and almost all is known about it but still some things are confidential.
RPG type 7vI only have one manual, the MiG-23ML manual, i will translate it and if some one wants to discuss it well is welcome
This is from the page 9 of the MiG-23 manual, in this page has in very few words the MiG-23ML and MiG-23UB main specifications:
We can see that the MiG-23ML has a weight with four R-3S missiles of 14670 kg and with two bombs of 500kg each of 15190kg, an internal fuel reserve of 3700kg, with an external fuselage tank it reaches 4360 kg, with external wing pod fuel tanks 5020 kg and with three fuel tank is 5680 kg, the MiG-23ML has a max speed at sea level of 1400 km/h, a Max speed of 2500 km/h or in Mach number of Mach 2.35, a practical ceiling of 17000 mtrs, a Max G limit of 8.5 at speeds below Mach 0.85 and 7.5Gs at speeds above Mach 0.85
The MiG-23ML has a flight range on internal fuel at the speed of Mach 0.74-0.77 with the wings set at a sweep angle of 16 degrees at ceiling of 14km-16km, of 1450km, this increases to 2360km with three fuel tanks
The MiG-23ML has a Max range with three external fuel tanks and two R-24/AA-7 Apex of 900km at a ceiling of 200 meters
The MiG-23 will accelerate at the altitude of 1 km from the speed of 630km to 1300km in just 30 seconds and at the altitude of 10km-12km will accelerate from Mach 1 to Mach 2 in just 160 seconds
The other page is the page number 1 and its the cover of the MiG-23ML manual
What have you done?! 😮 😮 😮
You and those damned dumbass idiots from airwar,ru should be gratefull to god this is not good old USSR because you would be shoot execution style for giving to westerners such detailed information about our fighter thats even still in service..shame ,shame ,shame on you.i cant belive what you rasputins imbecils are doing. 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
а что это за срака такая камераден? гы гы
i was wondering why are our security letting that crazy man jefim gordon
live but reading his childlish books ive become aware they are not danger because they are full of half-thruts and work very well as source of desinformation to confuse westerners 😎 ………………………………..
I would also very much appreciate if anyone could point me to flight manuals,pilots impresions and ultra-detailed info on F-22,yf-23, f-16 block 50/52/60 f-15c,k ,f-18 c,d,e,f,….. :diablo:
RPG type 7vThat was an Su-24MR that passed over the deck of the carrier, not an Su-25. FLANKERs were around though.
true.
that was long time ago i dont remember their names even tho they were decorated as heroes afterwards. su-27 skimming was very good but su-24 suprised me how good it was as wingman.thanks for link to article im not that good with internet.
RPG type 7vThe Foxhound has airframe, engine and general arangements optimised for high Mach-numbers. They reduced the requirement of the MiG-25 and came out with a useful aircraft, that still dominates the high-speed regime. Still, the MiG-31 is very uncomfortable in anything that comes close to a WVR-fight.
first i am amazed ras-putin and his poltrons from mikojan are not impementing changes to best interceptor in the world.first you can put biggest aesa in its big raddome…and damn it delete the second guy! not kill it 😀 just make 1 pilot enough per plane ,electronics is there.intekes can be redesigned then and get more power,there is also some reserve power in second stage low pressure turbine enough to use it for some thrust vectoring.or delete it and improve one and only lp stage,and get even more power.
RPG type 7vAccording to one of the Eagle pilots on that flight the USSR moved several Foxhounds into the area as a counter and they (the Foxhounds) “made the run down at Mach 2.6. All 620 miles of it.” .
scorsh doesnt know about premier interceptor of our great country. 😮
no i think it was more in killomethers 1100, center tank 4 r-33,2 r-40 ,is full load,but just in 4 r-33 and 2 more tanks it can go that far but around 2,35. 2.6 you maybe forgot or pilot didnt read ok.
RPG type 7vThese machines are hardly obsolete! Some components they have or the systems they employ are still considered state-of-the-art…
Yes I know they will probably loose 9 out of 10 times in a BVR fight against the mighty Raptor, but in an all out war there are at least a large portion of the fight will be in WVR… and those that are mentioned are hardly obsolete in this area…
Those aircrafts also have state-of-the-art strike capabilities…
That kill ratio srap i hear lots of times is really some heavy lieas invented by military for dumb politics people.IT ALL depends on tactics you employ and the use of maximum inteligence information you gather
to choose tactics in first place.
you have to do behave differently, mistakes in gulf war 1 show or the other hand vietnaam,kosovo or iraq now.
I found this reading somewhere else but it shows how apsurd kill ratio is.
The F-22 was given a 10:1 kill ratio against SU-35’s. Even if you count in inaccuracies in their simulations, it’s still impressive.
that is nothing, if u were to take a close look at the India cope excercise, the indians used Mirages, MiG-21’s and MiG-29’s MiG-27’s, not only older Su-30MKI’s: okay so i’m gunna go with u’re excuse that u were outnumbered by 3, so 9-3:1, 6:!
american pilots vs. best indian pilots(i disagree with this because, what happened to that message”oh american pilots are the best trained, but i’ll be generous and subtract 1)6-1:1,5:1
your AMRAAM had 1/3 the range, so ii’ll subtract by 2 5-2:1, 3:1
and now the F-15’s weren’t equipped with the AESA radar(which the russians also have) -1 3-1:1, 2:1
now, add the fact that Indian equipped Su-30MKI’s aren’t equipped with all the standard things that the indians WANTED, and considering russia just delivered the first batch in 2002, when they were supposed to deliver them between 1997-2000, with each batch being more advanced, that means, that in 2005 they will be fully Su-30MKI’s, so the kill ratio at cope India was 3:1 realistically, now, lets examine the other planes
okay, its taken me a long time, but i have gathered a lot of facts on the planes:MiG-27, MiG-29, Su-30MKI,MiG-21BIS,F-15,and the Mirage 2000
MiG-27 vs. F-15 1:8, no, not even the F-15 would destroy it, 1:9
MiG-29 vs. F-15 1:4
MiG-21BIS vs. F-15 1:9
Mirage 2000 vs. F-15 1:7
so, to balance the the 3:1 ratio(sorry, now its 2:1 because there wasn’t an E-3 on the F-15 side) so 2:1, the Su-30MKI kill ratio has to be
Su-30MKI vs. F-15 (wow this is hard to calculate) oh here we go 54:1
that seems like a lot, wow,
and if u use bvr simulations on true perevaxtcik [interceptor]MIG-31BM in BVR ratios vs sukhoi 2-1 you get something like 108-1!!!!
so you USE weakness of slow hornet.Electronics? so other fighters have/can get those upgrades hornet did and then what.?!Im very proud to say nows moment ours Su-33 is BEST!
RPG type 7vWas it a bad job really or a design change through added stealth-features later in production. The performance gains in that area were judged more important f.e.. Till today we have not learned the true reasons for that drag rise. Maybe you know more details about that?
What gaines?only expencive loses look at MIG-29K its much better done just ram and thats enough
with external weapons,fences,intakes,.. forget it.For protection of carier you need bigger cruising platforms and it is not.nor its a dash and sprint fighter,nore indurance ,now when you can launch from near 300km ramjets at carier whow is it going to protect it?modern fighter can start from 500km away and reach that critical launch distance before f-18.now hows carier even with help form awacs gona register it at that distance at all.su-25 and -27 suprised americans at pacific,revealing themselves over their decks.
RPG type 7vthe Combat radius is 400nm with a 100nm supercruise M=1,5 , and 600 nm at subsonic speeds with a weapon load of 8 missiles .
vs
combat range at M=2.35! cruise, 400 n.miles ,full load
combat range at M=0.8, 900+ n.miles, full load
enough said!
affordable stealth muahahaaaaa….
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RPG type 7vHmm still can’t believe US is trembling because of 30 Su-30MKs and a few AK-47’s…
Its just a start ,future prospects are what they are worried about.Ice is broken and this opens doors for more south-american countries to sign up deals with R.F.
RPG type 7vHow cute he’s buying a few Su-30’s to stop a U.S. invasion.
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Its a little bit for now to get familiar with plane ,technicians and pilots…but latter much much more will come….
RPG type 7vOmg. That shows how little you know and how ignorant you are. The merging of Irkut and MiG is already on-going, and only miracle can change something.
Plans to merge Irkut, Mig, Sukhoi, Ilushin and Tupolev are already approved by russian goverment and talks are held mainly about who got how many action stakes and whese managers will remain. There is a big hype about merging since already 1 year, its rather impossbile to miss that.P.S. Btw, exact contract volume with Chavez is not disclosed, its simply “over a billion”. How much over – you guess it….
Su-30xx Figters are 2 squadrons-certainly.
Now perhaps you know MIG and YAK have been talking 15 yrs now and they continue to talk ,no merger yet!
THE REAL merger is of construcors bueraus and to share design and experimental knowlege and secret projects.Indenpendence is fiercly kept and noone wants to give up its projects first and canceled….They can talk for next 100 years and not merge. :p Old guard is still there.
RPG type 7vRPG: First of all no one here is “stupid” please refrain from insulting fellow posters the next time around.
Second Irkut, which is only partially owned by Sukhoi holding company was run successfully by Alexei Fyodorov who in 2004 was apointed the head of MiG… http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/09/27/fyodorov.shtml
So there is no real great problem between Irkut and MiG these days they must see themselves as complimentary product lines.
Hammer
Some of your posts ARE very dumb ….
Its like you are in a guessing game..
Alek has his agenda, Irkutsk plant has its own, highly unlikely.Alek is there because of his contacts in the government and experience in advertising…
But not good is he for MIG in long term since that man is corrrupt to the bone….
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