MSA and AESA no phaseshifter therefore no loss in the phaseshifter.
PESA need phaseshifter for the beamsteering, ferrit lenses high loss, less sidelobes. Radant lenses lower loss therfore time sidelobes.
Zaslon used ferrit phaseshifter for the x and for the y direction.
1700 emitters for X (antenna gain 36dB, pretty low for such a big antenna) and 64 for L (antenna gain 17.5dB).
PESA with ferrit phaseshifter are slow scanning and it’s difficult produce multipile Beams (only row and colums are adressable)!
Radant lenses are fast but make are hot nose and produce time sidelobes, beam direction undefined between switching!
Bars use a hybrid aray x is steered by ferrit lenses and y direction is steered by Radant lenses.

again youre mixing gains with with transmiting .its receiving end thats making gains and bad 70s era electronics didnt have sensitivity to make much bigger gains now possible.
also were talking head on engagments where loss for transmision is much less due to only periferal modules making beam stearing and ones around center dont have to also the angle for new catode closes with array is less then 20 degrees now making loses even more reduced for transmition phase.where angles get sharper pherits cause much bigger loses.

You’re right as they’d most likely be DEAD. :diablo:

:rolleyes: but lets see missile fighter combo is strong as its weakest link ,so lets look at missile while the raptor is turning away at 70-90km? good situational awarness they seem to copy from mig-35 to suhoi and good countermeasures dont make it way you make it sound.mig realised that in all past conflict it didnt have that advantige of cgi awareness we so much insisted on .heck we even had computers on early suhoi fighter so they could fly themselves land themselves and pilots protested.they were for show….but so advances 4 gen. it weares its own suite. american aircraft benefited the countermeasures and CGI they had in all conflicts.other countries didnt.and you whine about ussr CGI .that was really same thing that americans have ,only they carry their CGI with them on expeditions on mobile platforms.of missiles mig-25 fired at f-18 in desert storm you know which one made the hit?
I think it can be seen new philosophy developed here with amongst other things wingtip pods,better 360 degree awareness and better warning times and 3rd response countermeasures to incoming threats ,so it can standalone and not be blind 240 degrees

You can’t possibly be that stupid.

And I’m sure craptor pilots will be busy telling themselves that as they’re riding the silk to the ground. ROFL!!!

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That’s just the thing though. It DIDN’T happen “in the furball”. The F-22 had broken off due to ROE and the Snorenet kept going. What kind of accomplishment is that? That’d be like taking a 12-gauge shotgun to an aircraft sitting on the ramp and telling everybody you now have a sure-fire anti-aircraft weapon. It’s absurd.

so the enemy will respect rules of engagment? 😮
like standing in middle of desert and just wait and sit there?

The F-35’s stealth is cheaper to maintain , needs less care and is “prime” for less and good for more time (less de gradation) having said that i wont be surprised that after 15 years of Useage the average RCS of a F-35 is better then of a F-22 with 15 years of useage but that is just my opinion .
Is the Apg-81 more advanced in the A2A role then the Apg-77 ? It is claimed that it would have around 20-30% less no..

youre words! how would new su-35bm do if it used ground masking and terrain hugging tecnic ,against 10-15 year old craptor?

well it seems after tummbling over youtube and fansites you found -nothing…
wows i expected tonns of video material with craptor doing supercobras and kulbits…
too bad it cant.:eek:
instead only things i see is angry comments about my posts -did i struck a nerve :diablo:?
i expected the craptor to blow us away with its performace but that airframe is limiting ,so from 1-10 only 7 from the russian judge.:D

whats its RCS now?
and that toan guy is rubbish …
IRST will takeover from radar since 90km away and detect super-fat-cruiser charging frontal blazing into victory (or so he thinks) craptor.

4-Nice video RPG type 7..

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thanks,im sure youll like this one
http://video.sibnet.ru/rub/1324/video28315/
some of it can go to full frontal pics topic ,like spitfire ,warthog ,and the sound of starfighter at 0,47 is whooosh…
dont dismiss novator ks /172 nautical miles project yet ,why you listening to its competitor vympel?

a pair of tupolevs.