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Wonder why this hasn’t been mentioned yet. Anybody?

Ukip in new racism row after Lenny Henry insult
More UK Independence Party election candidates make prejudiced comments on the internet, including one who said Lenny Henry, the comedian, should leave Britain to live in a “black country”

Nigel Farage is facing a new racism row after it emerged that more of his UK Independence Party election candidates made prejudiced comments on the internet.
In one statement, a candidate standing in next month’s local council elections suggested on Twitter that the comedian, Lenny Henry should leave Britain to live in a “black country”.
The party insisted it would investigate and act upon any comments from candidates that breach its “non-racist, non-sectarian” values.
The disclosures followed a week in which a series of publicity gaffes threatened to damage Ukip’s hopes in the European Parliament and local council elections taking place on May 22.
The party was forced to suspend one of the stars of its European election broadcast when it emerged he had published a series of racist remarks on Twitter.
In the latest controversy, William Henwood, a Ukip candidate for election in Enfield, north London, responded on Twitter to a speech by Mr Henry, in which the actor suggested there were not enough ethnic minority faces on television.
According to his Twitter account, the Ukip candidate said: “He should emigrate to a black country. He does not have to live with whites.”
A Ukip candidate in Camden, Magnus Nielsen, claimed that 70 per cent of mosques in the UK have been “taken over” by “fundamentalists”.
According to his Facebook page, he said: “Islam is organised crime under religious camouflage. Any Muslim who is not involved in organised crime is not a ‘true believer’, practising Islam as Mohammed commanded.”
In a statement, Ukip said that the party was “non-racist, non-sectarian” and that “any comments made by members that fail to uphold these values will be duly investigated and acted upon”.
Last week, Mr Farage admitted that Ukip’s candidate-vetting procedures had failed after a man with racist views was granted a starring role in the party’s election broadcast.
The Ukip leader said he was “very angry” that Andre Lampitt, a Zimbabwean kitchen fitter, was given a prominent role in the television broadast.
Mr Lampitt, who is a Ukip council candidate, posted a series of racist messages on Twitter, saying Islam is “evil” and claiming Ed Miliband is not British.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10790504/Ukip-in-new-racism-row-after-Lenny-Henry-insult.html

Henwood told the BBC:

“I think if black people come to this country and don’t like mixing with white people why are they here? If he (Henry) wants a lot of blacks around go and live in a black country.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27176803

Gosh, another triumph for Farage’s non racist political party. Maybe bigoted political party would be a better description.
(For those who really want to know Henwood came from Zimbabwe – or Rhodesia as he apparently still refers to it – whereas Lenny Henry was born in Dudley, in the Black Country. Can you work out who the immigrant is?)

Still, carry on blaming the mean and biased media for pointing out where UKIP fall down; it’s nothing to do with the candidates they choose.;o)

Hmm, at least the wheels haven’t come off Farage’s campaign. Chipped paint and battered bodywork, maybe, but still rolling…

Ukip bus crashes into Portsmouth station

The Ukip campaign double-decker bus collided with a Portsmouth railway station canopy as the driver attempted to manoeuvre out of a car park after greeting party leader Nigel Farage.

The purple bus, with only one passenger on board, arrived at Portsmouth & Southsea to greet Mr Farage, who is visiting the city as part of his campaign for the forthcoming European elections.

But the collision happened as the bus appeared to make a U-turn as it could not fit under the railway platform bridge at the exit of the car park.

The bus appeared to suffer damage to the front although only minor damage appeared to have been sustained by the canopy.

People gathered and looked out at windows laughing at the bus’s mishap, which happened after Mr Farage had left to meet local people.

Staff at the railway station also came out of the building to inspect the damage to the canopy.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ukip-bus-crashes-into-portsmouth-station-1-6025252

Wonder if it was a foreign driver…?

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By: charliehunt - 15th October 2014 at 17:34

Aw come on, Alan, the last three Tory prime ministers didn’t go to public school but two of the Labour PMs did so fair’s fair!!;)

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By: Creaking Door - 15th October 2014 at 17:16

I’m sick of the Eton/Harrow fraternity, running the country for their own benefit…

Yes! Let’s give another public school a chance!

(Nigel Farage – Dulwich.)

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By: TwinOtter23 - 15th October 2014 at 11:07

A link about a UKIP MEP from another thread http://www.nottinghampost.com/UKIP-MEP-Roger-Helmer-asks-privacy-spotted/story-23119661-detail/story.html

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By: charliehunt - 15th October 2014 at 11:03

I rarely watch or listen to current affairs on the BBC but if they are as unbalanced as you suggest I doubt it will be long before the big boot is applied, so thin is the ice upon which the edifice is built!!

As the election draws near the media driven prattle will give way to the one thing people always vote for. Which lot will do most for me? And a vote for UKIP or Green or maybe even Liberal will not do much for them.

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By: AlanR - 15th October 2014 at 10:56

Polling results extrapolated to general elections are notoriously inaccurate.

Yes, that has been proved time and time again.
There’s no doubt though, that both Labour and Conservative have been put on the back foot, as regards UKIP.
It’s not so much that people want to see UKIP in power (which is extremely unlikely to happen), it’s just as someone said on
the TV the other day, “I’m sick of the Eton/Harrow fraternity, running the country for their own benefit”

As I said before, the government and the BBC will be pulling out all the stops between now and next May, to rubbish
UKIP in every conceivable way.
This week’s Panorama programme was a pretty clumsy and obvious attempt at doing just that.

They still fail to appreciate that the general public are quite capable of making up their own minds.

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By: charliehunt - 15th October 2014 at 10:28

I am not so sure. There is still a way to go before May and a helluva lot of water to flow under the bridge. I would not discount a minority government in an “accommodation” with a third party and a clear majority cannot yet be ruled out. Polling results extrapolated to general elections are notoriously inaccurate.

Come May 8th well see if I have to eat these words!;)

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By: Moggy C - 15th October 2014 at 09:33

It becomes pretty clear that there will not be a single party government in the UK for some years to come. A vote for a fringe party might just see them with some power in the next coalition, so voting Green, if that is your choice, may no longer be as futile as it used to appear.

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By: AlanR - 15th October 2014 at 09:28

Regarding the Panorama programme this week. The BBC still don’t seem get it.

Surely they and the rest of the media realize by now, that every attempt to rubbish Farage and UKIP,
secures more votes for his party.

Heaven only know what else they will dream up before next month’s by-election ?

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By: charliehunt - 16th May 2014 at 17:43

I doubt that it ever has – not for me at any rate.

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By: MattCooke - 16th May 2014 at 17:35

now that I whole heartedly agree with, I think it’ll be a rare case for someone to agree with EVERYTHING a party stands for.

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By: charliehunt - 16th May 2014 at 17:00

Therein lies the problem. A combination of which you think is the least worst and which chimes with your general philosophy of how we should be governed will probably be where the individual vote goes.

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By: trumper - 16th May 2014 at 16:51

And the Tories can be trusted??

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By: MattCooke - 16th May 2014 at 16:12

They play on people fears about global warming and other environmental issues…

The hypocrisy from some posters in this thread is astounding, slating UKIP voters for apparently being intolerant, yet they are being completely intolerant towards the views, beliefs and fears of others.

The climate is changing whether you believe it or not.

I am intolerant towards hate fuelled by ignorance… Is that such a bad thing?

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By: John Green - 16th May 2014 at 16:00

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I like a bit of tree hugging from time to time but, support the Greens? A step too far. Some slightly irrational element about their claims to save the planet.

Within my memory, the Socialists have never been able successfully to manage the British economy. This is their Achillies Heel and they know it ! If, Heaven forbid, they ever again gain power – it is likely, given the short memories of the electorate – we should hand control of the Treasury to the Women’s Institute. They have the capacity for stringent housekeeping and the strength to keep Ed Balls on a short financial string because we all know he and the rest of his motley crew can’t be trusted.

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By: charliehunt - 16th May 2014 at 15:49

And with that last sentence don’t let’s forget that Balls was guiding the “Broon” hand from 1997 to 2010 and played a major part in what happened during those 13 years. Millipede was only in government when Broon was PM but he was………..of course – Energy Minister!!

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By: j_jza80 - 16th May 2014 at 15:14

is one of the many reasons I am voting green. It is a vote based on hope, rather than fear.

They play on people fears about global warming and other environmental issues…

The hypocrisy from some posters in this thread is astounding, slating UKIP voters for apparently being intolerant, yet they are being completely intolerant towards the views, beliefs and fears of others.

The way I see it, if you are happy with how this country has been run over the last 20 years, vote Conservative, Labour or LibDem. If you want things to change, vote Green or UKIP.

I shudder to think that there is a chance that Balls and Milliband could have control of our economy again.

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By: MattCooke - 16th May 2014 at 14:14

Matt, I have reached age when I think it is unlikely that my core beliefs will be changed, but I hope I am reasonably tolerant of others’ beliefs. I hold my hands up – not always, but I try!;)

It’s good, I often forget about the generation gap on this forum

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By: charliehunt - 16th May 2014 at 06:04

thank YOU for being able to disagree in such a civilised manor 🙂 A refreshing change from the usual school playground style disparaging.

Matt, I have reached age when I think it is unlikely that my core beliefs will be changed, but I hope I am reasonably tolerant of others’ beliefs. I hold my hands up – not always, but I try!;)

GD tends towards “I’m right you’re wrong” argument rather than rational discussion. I suppose it’s really a repository for our prejudices. But not always and it can be interesting and amusing by turns.

Good luck with your Greens next week!;)

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By: John Green - 15th May 2014 at 23:01

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Even you can do better than that. If you are North of the Borders, that’ll be an import – if you are South, that’ll be an export. Someone with higher education should be able to understand.

I did not refer to immigrants; “Importing people” has other interpretations. Someone who has ‘higher education’ should be able to work that out.

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By: MattCooke - 15th May 2014 at 22:31

thank YOU for being able to disagree in such a civilised manor 🙂 A refreshing change from the usual school playground style disparaging.

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