M.Ps Want a 32% pay rise !!!

The trouble is ‘Neutral’ – the MP’s vote their own pay rises in !!! so generally speaking they will get what they think they can get away with :rolleyes:…as has been mentioned…if their pay was performance related then they would be on the national minimum wage – because frankly a large proportion of people in the UK are sick of the selfish conduct of many MP’s over the years.
Perhaps their pension scheme should be under scrutiny as well…not many of us in ordinary jobs have a good pension scheme any more and personally I do not give advice to youngsters about financial matters because all the goal posts keep getting moved :rolleyes: -any chance of cuts to the MP’s pension schemes ??

No – I thought not :rolleyes:

So, Charlie, I would vote for him next time round. Can the rest of our constituents say the same regarding their M.P.?.

Lincoln .7

I too have had a similar experience. My guess would be that more would say the same than would not. That is to say that that relatively small percentage of constituents probably get satisfaction from their dealings with their MP. All of that effort is unsung and unpublicised so the public never see the whole picture.

I have spoken to my local M.P. John Hays regarding several local “Items”. He has prompted action on, mainly with the local Council. He has kept me up to speed regarding my complaints, and solved them, Performance?. in my book 100%.
So, Charlie, I would vote for him next time round. Can the rest of our constituents say the same regarding their M.P.?. So, he would get a pay rise, although not the 32% they want, but a gesture/goodwill rise.

I don’t mind paying for results, however, why do they make pre election promises prior to the General Election, and once in forget they ever made them?.

Then when nearing their end of term of office, blame the party that led the Country prior to them, for not keeping their promises.

One thing that riles me somewhat is the term, “MY right honourable friend”, Backhanders, bribes, you name what’s wrong, and they do it, if we did the same, it would be a case of “Ello, Ello, Ello”, and a Court appearance.

Whats the point, I gave up on them all, years ago, as did many of us.
Jim.

Lincoln .7

I.M.H.O. they should get a performance related pay rise.
Jim.

Lincoln .7

Out of interest, and a serious question, how could such a job be performance related? The number of constituents whose problems you solve. The number of times you get a question asked at PMQ. The amount you are able to limit your expenses to. The number of speeches you make in the House. Whether or not you get a Private Members Bill debated.

The average cost of an MP is about £100,000 p.a. so the 50 which the Tories want to reduce in the Commons would save £ 5 million at least. Although this looks as though it has been scuppered by Clegg’s hissy fit, so it is unlikely to happen.

To be fair, the MPs are not demanding a pay raise, they were asked in an anonymous questionnaire to state what they thought the salary of a Member of Parliament should be.

Neutral…………

Welcome to the forum.

What you say is true but it does rather comfirm that as a group they are totally out of touch with the electorate who the are supposed to represent.

Planemike

What they “Wan’t”, and what they are getting now, is two entirely different matters. No doubt they want to make up their shortfall, now they find it harder to fiddle expences.Now if they gave those in work the same pay rise they get, all would be happy.
I used to work on the production line at Frank Perkins engines, Peterborough, you couldn’t even go for a pee, until another was found to take your place, it was bloody hard graft, I wonder how many M.Ps would put up with 8hrs hard, solid graft like that?.I guess there are many jobs like that today, I know quite a few people, who WORK through their lunch break, just to keep on top of their jobs.I don’t, or can even imagine any M.P. doing that. They may well have the odd late night discussion in the House, but they are few and far between.

Now, I sit up any night wondering what I will do with the few pence State Pension, will give me, and other Pensioers this year, but we all know it will not be the same as the M.Ps get, more to the point, do they realy need 32%, that’s one hell of a pay rise.

I.M.H.O. they should get a performance related pay rise.(Which means, most would get nowt)
Better go and scrape the mould off the outdated cheese, so I can have a toasted, stale bread toasty, God, I’ve never had it so good!!:rolleyes:
On the bright side, I have managed to get 5 cuppas from just ONE tea bag.

Jim.

Lincoln .7

No, that’s true and to be entirely fair the OP wrote “want” not “demand”. But I agree that’s splitting hairs…thread title amendment required!!:diablo:

To be fair, the MPs are not demanding a pay raise, they were asked in an anonymous questionnaire to state what they thought the salary of a Member of Parliament should be.

Can’t wait,;)

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Jim.
I don’t need to organise a beer tent, there’s one already.
First show of the season.

As to the other business.
Yes there is a bit of ‘funny business’ about at the moment.
Watch this forum for news.

Andy

Having been to the Workshop open day, and meeting a few members of the forum, whoes company I enjoyed, I hope Andy can get a Spring meeting organised, and a Beer tent, (Andys words) where we can meet up. If he can, then perchance we could meet up.

Jim.

Lincoln .7

Thanks, Jim – I intend to this year. I have been promising myself a return visit for a long time so 2013 it will be!!:)

Charlie, If it’s a long time ago since your last visit, go and have a day out, (I don’t know how mobile you are, take a friend if needed) but I think you would enjoy it.
Knowing Alan, he would no doubt “Nick” his favourite motorcycle one dark night, if it’s decided to sell that part of the collection off, Andy is dedicated to O.W. and would be devastated if it came to fruition.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

I suppose if they are being really picky they refer back to his mother’s original intention:

Dorothy Shuttleworth, although devastated by the loss of her son, set up the mansion as a Red Cross Convalescent Home for injured airmen and created a small chapel, dedicated to Richard. In 1944 she decided to place the estate in a charitable Trust in memory of Richard; she wanted to ensure that it would continue as one entity to be used for the purpose of agricultural and aviation education, two interests that Richard was especially keen on.

But it really would be a great shame if the non-aviation exhibits were sold on. I remember a visit with my father many years ago and he was passionate about cars, bikes and aircraft. He was apprenticed to Miles Aircraft and had tinkered with old bikes and cars as a teenager so all his dreams were relived under one roof!!

Andy. Can you be more explicit, or can’t you say anything. There are too many old vehicles and motorcycles in the collection, further, there must be many visitors who attend O.W. just to see that part of the collection.
I know a chap who has a large collection of OLD motorcycles, which include a “Nearacar” a friend came over from the USA to visit me, (He was on his way to the “TT” races, and stopped at my home to go and see the chap with the private collection of motorcycles, he was not in the least interested in vintage or old aircraft.
Far be it for me to pass my opinion, but IMHO it would be a huge retrograde step, and also more expensive to do any needed repairs to acquired new aircraft, either as static or flying.

Why is it, you always get some prat who want’s to change this.
No doubt he who wants change, has asked visitors this last year, what they would like to see?, I doubt it.

Jim.

Lincoln .7

I fear that mass civil unrest will be the only outcome of such a pay rise, The country is in deep troubles the EU is in total crisis the world economy is shrinking fast. We are losing businesses day by day and these greedy s*ds want to have a pay increase.
Everyday they show more and more why they are totally out of touch with reality and the general public, and then they wonder why less and less people vote in elections.

The pay of MPs should represent the people they allegedly represent and should be performance based. So if country is doing well they get an increase if its not they don’t. Anything else is insulting to all of us struggling day to day to make ends meet.

I really do not want to see anymore civil unrest in my life time as my home town still shows the scars of the last lot of unrest. However I am also unwilling to let my country go to ruin due to the greed of those people who were voted into represent us. Its for this reason I would seriously consider peaceful protest and would head to London to voices my views with the masses.

Sadly I think at the rate things are going civil disobedience and civil unrest are pretty much a certainty in the near future,I just hope I am wrong.

Andy, I think that’s rather selfish of you saying that. WHO would look after all the cars and motorcycles at O.W. if that happened?

Well Jim, on a serious note.
If our latest aviation trustee has his way, he’ll be selling the vehicles to buy more aeroplanes.

Watch this space as the man once said.

I had that thought but it didn’t seem appropriate to post it. I thought I’d leave it to you…..!!:p:diablo:

Andy is revolting, so that means he would still be in charge.:);)

(No offence Andy :p )

Jim.

Lincoln .7

Andy, I think that’s rather selfish of you saying that. WHO would look after all the cars and motorcycles at O.W. if that happened ?. 😉

Jim.

Lincoln .7

They would have been commandeered by the revolting masses!!;):diablo: