Titanic conspiracy, did she really sink?

A friend of mine (aircraft mechanic and highly esteemed gentleman) invented a perpetual motion machine. No BS. He swears that the air-hose connected to the back has nothing to do with it whatsoever. :diablo:

Anyone with a little common sense will realise that that the majority of these theories and especially the 911 conspiracies are nothing else but complete bullsh!t.

A lot of people lack a little common sense.

Peter[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is true, most conspiracies are a load of rubbish. But is it not better to question sometimes what the powers above want us to believe? Otherwise we are just a lost bunch of sheep. There is a certain romance to a good conspiracy theory, just because you don’t give a ‘hoot’ does this mean people with their own minds can’t make a descion themselves??

Gavin

I couldn’t give a hoot for what people say about the loss of the Titanic. The Titanic was an accident. If it took a trained pilot of an airliner an unbelievable amount skill to pinpoint a target as large as the Pentagon and hit it, then finding, spotting and hitting an iceberg in a pitch-black night is such a sheer amount gifted seamanship, they should have used it for something else instead. He should have joined the Navy.
911 is a totally different subject. It was calculated, cold-blooded mass-murder! And there are people who honestly believe that the president (or Government) of a civilized christian nation would have the guts to carry out such an attack to boost the economy or whatever?

Peter

What’s with people going for EGPH? Can you not be intrigued by something unless you believe it to be true?

I suppose that is why they are called theories, and not facts…

I once had a colleague who had assembled over the years a very sophisticated spoof theory of electricity.

It was a total hoot and I can’t retell it as he did, but basically there are three kinds of electricity – Hot electricity, Bright electricity and Roundy-roundy electricity.

Hence the reason for there being three wires. One kind is delivered down each wire.

Now things like shavers for instance have no requirement for Bright electricity (mostly used in lamps and displays) so are only provided with a two-pin plug and a twin wire – one supplies the heat which you can feel when it is working, and the other provides the Roundy-roundy power for the motor.

For most objections I could think of he had an explanation.

This is exactly how conspiracy theories work, barely plausible alternative explanations for something that is in truth quite straightforward.

Moggy

I do find conspiracy theories very interesting. Most of them are very convincing as those who have put them together have though of every detail and got an answer to them, no matter what you throw at them they have a story to counter it.

Well, this sounds as if you find them interesting and convincing because you WANT to find them interesting and convincing. As you said you haven’t read the Titanic conspiracy theories yet but you still find them “rivetting”. Apparently you find them convincing before you even read them. Those who are against any conspiracy also have enough evidence they can hold against them. Don’t you find these convincing?

Anyone with a little common sense will realise that that the majority of these theories and especially the 911 conspiracies are nothing else but complete bullsh!t.

A lot of people lack a little common sense.

Peter

Don’t do yourself down.

Your explanation was just fine.

Thx

Moggy

Thanks EGPH, just what was called for.

Moggy

Sorry i am not very good at paraphrasing or explaining things. I can grasp an idea in my head OK but if I have to explain it someone else I make a dog’s dinner out of it! I would much rather show people a YouTube video of an idea than try and explain it myself 😮

EGPH.
It’s You Tube FFS.
Enough said?

One can even read the science about it all in Arabic if you want. There are features and facts in the science of fire and bldgs in steel.

Oh, and “After the fact” theories can be made to fit ANY, yes ANY event.
Didn’t the BBC Horizon team once line up the stars of Orion with New York Police Stations? Give it up EGPH, you know it makes sense.

Thanks EGPH, just what was called for.

Moggy

EGPH

The collapsing bldg theory can be ridiculed by reading page 1 of “Structural architecture for dummies”.

If you seek a conspiracy theory on 9/11 then look at the one that the losers doing the hijack were paid by USA. It’s equally 100% bullsh1t, but it holds more possibility in any of the others.

Right:

The YouTube video alleges:

WHO? The US government

WHY? “The Project for a New American Century” – summarised it was a report thought up by a very right wing think tank. They said that to transform the US into a dominant force for the 21st Century it “will be a long process” and it will involve a “catastrophic and catalysing event – like Pearl Harbour”

The video then goes on to explain that some of the proposals that same group asked for were granted:

Abandon the Antiballistic Missile Treaty – It happened

Establish more permanent US military bases overseas – new bases set up in Philippines, Georgia and plans for Iraq.

No, I didn’t ask for a link. I just wanted a brief answer to the questions.

I can’t summon up the necessary willpower to sit through a You-Tube explanation, sorry.

And I wasn’t accusing you as a theorist, not the intention at all.

Moggy

If that is directed at me and my 9/11 rant, that’s what stopped me 100% believing that 9/11 was Bush’s idea!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3JmXQ-z8S4&feature=related

The first 3 minutes of this video addresses these questions though the explanation can be questioned.

I am not trying to say that 9/11 WAS a conspiracy I was just presenting some of the hard to answer inconsistencies

Without going into fine detail about what appears a pretty silly conspiracy theory can you just paraphrase the who and why?

Moggy

I do find conspiracy theories very interesting. Most of them are very convincing as those who have put them together have though of every detail and got an answer to them, no matter what you throw at them they have a story to counter it.

As an aviation enthusiast I have seen many YouTube vids of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, I admit I find them very convincing indeed. The only 3 steel structured buildings to collapse due to fire EVER all fell on the same day, in the same city and all at free fall speed, meaning there was no resistance at all to the collapse. Also, the most watched building in all of the US is the Pentagon, however none of the CCTV cameras picked up a huge 757 blowing a hole in the side of the building! Also I hope some would agree here, any pilot capable of flying a fully loaded B752 into the Pentagon and scoring a direct hit, is a ruddy good pilot!!

As for the Titanic, I have never really researched conspiracy theories into that but I may read them soon, all riveting stuff!!

I read one of those books and what a complete load of steaming horse by product, also they ignore the fact that the name TITANIC was cut into the steel on both sides of the bow and in the stern to swap these would take major reconstruction and would take weeks not the few days they say it would take!! and the wreck clearly shows the word TITANIC on the bow.

Whats next they finally found the Lancaster bomber on the moon??

curlyboy

What a jolly old laugh but me thinks if the mods were not having fun on this post it would have been closed way back for going off topic. But who Im I eh ? Carry on Im enjoying it………..

I thought it was a B-32.
I hope there’s one on the Moon, there isn’t one here.:D
Maybe there’s a Stirling up there along with other extinct types.

There certainly is a London Bus on the moon according to the Daily Sport!

According to that most reliable of sources, The Sunday Sport, that aircraft is actually a Consolidated Privateer… :p

I thought it was a B-32.
I hope there’s one on the Moon, there isn’t one here.:D
Maybe there’s a Stirling up there along with other extinct types.