October 29, 2008 at 11:53 am
This is a bit of a hot topic at the moment, so I would be interested to know what people’s opinion is on the issue.
In case you are not aware, I am referring to the plight of Debbie Purdy, a 45 year old multiple sclerosis (MS) sufferer, who is attempting to get the law on assisted suicide clarified so that she knows under what circumstances her husband, Omar Puente, is able to help her end her life without being arrested, seeing as it is a crime to do so and punishable by up to 14 years in prison.
Unfortunately she lost her case at The High Court this morning, but has been granted the right to an appeal.
ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7697200.stm
So, where do you stand on this issue?
It might be a hard question to answer, but what would you do if you ever found yourself in a similar position?
Personally for me, I find it utterly unbelievable that the law cannot be at least ‘clarified’ on its position, and also why aren’t laws made clear enough before being past by Parliament, what controls are in place before a law gets past?
I have a lot of sympathy for Ms Purdy because its not as though she is asking for the law to be changed to allow her to end her life in this country, all she is merely asking for is for an understanding as to what extent her husband can/cannot help her, and the ruling given against her case this morning said that it cannot be granted until the action has actually been done!…:mad:
For more information, visit: http://www.carenotkilling.org.uk/?show=204
By: Spitfire Pilot - 6th January 2009 at 12:50
I would gladly volunteer to assist some members of the Jobcentre staff right now….with or without their God damn permission 😀 😀 😀
By: Corsair82pilot - 24th December 2008 at 05:36
Where do I stand? Well given the choice, I’d prefer to be the assistant. :dev2:
By: STORMBIRD262 - 1st December 2008 at 07:18
G’ day all.
Well I am an MSer, and seen many many other MSer’s clock off over the last 10 year’s through my Volunteer work and day group’s.
Some took there own life’s.
For me after 16 year’s of SSDD and now 42, I would like to do it myself when I am ready, and not alllow anyone else to assist, I am planning another 20 year’s atleast IF it work”s out that way.
Not I am not in to any Concept God’s, Devil’s, Angel’s or Any of the Cult’s
OK my 2 cent’s
Oooooooo Rooooooo
Croc’s and Dino’s RULE!!:dev2:
By: Grey Area - 29th November 2008 at 12:36
Some things are, I feel, best left to the imagination… :diablo:
By: Spitfire Pilot - 29th November 2008 at 12:32
That’s a good question….I hadn’t spotted that downfall 😀 😀 😀 LMAO 😀
By: BSG-75 - 19th November 2008 at 12:09
ah, why were Spitfire Pilot & Steve Rowell sleeping with their mothers-in-law:confused:?
:eek::eek::eek::D
By: Spitfire Pilot - 18th November 2008 at 12:38
I put a pillow across my Mother-in-laws face one night when stayed for the weekend..but she was too strong and wrestled me off..oh well I’ll try again another time
LOL 😀 😀 😀 I often felt like doing that to my ex-girlfriend’s mother 😀 😀 😀 LOL 😀
I didn’t though 😉 😉 😉
By: steve rowell - 15th November 2008 at 21:40
I put a pillow across my Mother-in-laws face one night when stayed for the weekend..but she was too strong and wrestled me off..oh well I’ll try again another time
By: BSG-75 - 12th November 2008 at 13:04
I’m with you
100,000% for it. Until you have seen the disgusting way my father died (bone cancer) .
To repeat my post from earlier in the thread :
I watched my father die two years ago at the age of 67 yrs and 6 months of stomach cancer. 5 days sick leave in 35 years of work at the same company, and he ended up being fed yoghurt direct into his bowel to keep him going. We never discussed this, but to have a choice between that “existance” and a quiet, dignified death is surely a right? I know what I would choose. I watched my Dad, my hero, turn from somebody who had never been ill into a shadow of himself – where is the dignity in that for him?
By: Spitfire Pilot - 11th November 2008 at 15:23
Sorry to hear that.
In such cases I’m all for it 🙂
By: sprintman - 11th November 2008 at 07:29
100,000% for it. Until you have seen the disgusting way my father died (bone cancer) starving to death (you can’t eat when you are zonked by drugs) you have no idea. To see a decorated Lancaster pilot die like this is a sad indictment on society. Don’t even get me started on the religious scum who stick their noses into everybody elses business allowing this to happen. Yes I’m angry but I “ll stop there.
By: Spitfire Pilot - 6th November 2008 at 12:54
Quite true.
By: PMN - 6th November 2008 at 11:45
I’m for it in some cases but I am just wondering that if it was legallised, how many cold blooded murderers would claim assisted suicide?
In all honesty I think it would be fairly easy to ascertain which was which. I know people can often have deeply hidden feelings and seemingly happy people have killed themselves for no apparent reason in the past (drummer Carlos Vega being one), but discussions with family members and close friends would probably give a reasonable indication of how likely someone would be to commit suicide.
Paul
By: Comet - 6th November 2008 at 10:57
If someone actually wants to die because they have an incurable medical condition, then they should have the right to, however I do not support the idea of people being “put to sleep” on the say so of someone else. The right to die should belong to the person concerned and no one else.
By: Spitfire Pilot - 4th November 2008 at 12:39
I’m for it in some cases but I am just wondering that if it was legallised, how many cold blooded murderers would claim assisted suicide?
By: Arabella-Cox - 1st November 2008 at 04:15
I reckon this could go on for quite a while and be quite an interesting debate – not for debate’s sake, mind you, as I consider it a serious topic. However, it’s going to have to go on hold until after the Lackland Airfest, church meeting, and sometime on Monday when I reposition our aircraft – if I remember to check back in.
Ryan
By: heslop01 - 31st October 2008 at 19:06
Thank goodness, there’s alot I don’t agree with in the bible to be honest.
By: Grey Area - 31st October 2008 at 18:43
In response to Moggy and Grey Area
I myself aren’t a literallist and despite having some belief in God, I actually believe in the scientific view of how the world began, i.e. the ‘big bang’, so I wouldn’t actually like to state views of it.
I don’t think anyone here would ever accuse you of being a Fundamentalist, Robbie. 🙂
By: heslop01 - 31st October 2008 at 18:40
In response to Moggy and Grey Area
I myself aren’t a literallist and despite having some belief in God, I actually believe in the scientific view of how the world began, i.e. the ‘big bang’, so I wouldn’t actually like to state views of it. I personally believe that when times have been tough for me and i’ve turned to God via praying asking for advice, then I believe because I would say a miracle happened, which I don’t feel liable to discuss in such a public place.
The questions Moggy stated, I would say that someone who done all that good throughout their life, gets a disease and wants to end it quickly, I think they should allow it because it will end people suffering, which is something I hate seeing, I however don’t know that if a person who done that, would either be able to live with that on their conscience or have it cleared from their souls when in purgatory.
By: Grey Area - 31st October 2008 at 17:36
God created the planet etc as we all know according to the bible..
But which version of the story do you believe?
In Genesis 1:25-27, God creates the animals and then creates Adam and Eve simultaneously.
However, according to Genesis 2:18-19, God created Adam first, and created the animals second. Adam then goes on to name all of the animals.
Similarly, in Genesis 1:27, we have God creating man and woman together “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them“.
But in Genesis 2:18:22, once Adam has named all of the animals, God causes him to fall into a deep sleep and creates Eve from one of his ribs.
The book of Genesis also contradicts itself on how long God took to create the heavens and the earth. Genesis 2:4 tells us it took one day, while elsewhere in Genesis we are told it took six, and God rested on the seventh day.
Don’t take my word for this, I’ve given references that you can go and check out for yourself.
There are similarly contradictory versions of events following the Resurrection – one of fundamental building blocks of Christian belief.
Yet there are still those who seek to use quotations from this very same book to justify prolonging the suffering and misery of strangers against their will.
It passeth all understanding, that’s for sure.