Just finished watching Top Gun for the umpteenth time and some things occured to me-
-This movie will be 20 years old next year
-The F-14, the ‘last of the cats’, will be retired from Naval service when the Carl Vinson returns from her current deployment
-Art Scholl died in a flat spin very much like the one depicted in the movie while filming this movie
I’m really gonna miss the F-14 when it goes, the end of the Grumman fighter era which started back in the 1930’s and ran all the way up to 2005….shall we avoid the paperwork and just classify the F-14 as a warbird now?
Mark
By: DazDaMan - 3rd February 2005 at 08:39
I was at USAF Pilot Training when it came out in 86, I can’t tell you guys how many young girls made a pilgrimmage to Columbus AFB to meet real “Top Guns” (At least we thought we were!) I got some real mileage at the bars from the movie, especially when I could boast I fly the “black Jet the bad guys fly in Top Gun” when I was in T-38’s.
I do remember the movie theater was full of Pilots and we all laughed at how many regs were being violated during each scene….Like flying fingertip formation while your lead had an engine-inop emergency and the list goes on!
TTP
You didn’t try singing “You’ve lost that loving feeling” to any of the chicks, did you? :diablo:
By: turbo_NZ - 3rd February 2005 at 03:59
Cor, I thought it was Susannah York…
“Kids, go and get your granny a cigarette…cough cough ugh….”
lol,…she ain’t flash now….too much behind the ‘burners of an F-14 spooling up……. 😮
TNZ
By: srpatterson - 3rd February 2005 at 03:43
:confused:
Kelly McGillis, pictured in 2001….
Cor, I thought it was Susannah York…
“Kids, go and get your granny a cigarette…cough cough ugh….”
By: Corsair166b - 3rd February 2005 at 03:21
Um…ok…did’nt expect this thread to end up THAT way….but then I stayed away from the Navy because they DID have a tendency towards a higher homosexuality rate (being away from port and WOMEN for all those months at a time), joined the Coast Guard instead (two weeks at a time at sea with a break in port somewhere after week one)…
I guess it could be construed as a bunch of macho guys prancing around….but I never thought of it that way, just liked it for the flying….Monty Python should do a remake, it’d be bloody hilarious…
Mark
By: turbo_NZ - 2nd February 2005 at 23:53
“….Yes… i know the finger Goose !!”
“…sorry,…I hate it when it does that…”
😉
TNZ
By: Dave T - 2nd February 2005 at 23:36
When “Charlie” is first introduced to the class, she struts down the aisle in heels……..
“….Yes… i know the finger Goose !!”
By: turbo_NZ - 2nd February 2005 at 23:21
When “Charlie” is first introduced to the class, she struts down the aisle in heels. When she follows Maverick into the building, you can briefly see that she is wearing flats to compensate for Maverick’s short stature.
Great fun film as a kid, haven’t seen it for years. Really upset my English teacher it did. Bloody liberal pansy. Have never actually seen an F14 from memory. Pity really, as it is quite tasty for a jet. (Just don’t tell anyone I said that).
One more thing – it really is a gay icon of a movie. Proof:
Script Analysis a la Tarantino
written by Duane Dell’Amico, Roger Hedden, Neal Jimenez, Joe Keenan, Rory Kelly, & Michael SteinbergSid: You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest ******* scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.
Duane (Todd Field): Oh, come on.
Sid: Top Gun is ******* great. What is Top Gun? You think it’s a story about a bunch of fighter pilots.
Duane: It’s about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.
Sid: It is a story about a man’s struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man. You’ve got Maverick, all right? He’s on the edge, man. He’s right on the ******* line, all right? And you’ve got Iceman, and all his crew. They’re gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they’re’ saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?
Sid: Kelly McGillis, she’s heterosexuality. She’s saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They’re saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what’s going on throughout that whole movie… He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they’re going to have sex, you know, they’re just kind of sitting back, he’s takin’ a shower and everything. They don’t have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She’s like, “What the ****, what the **** is going on here?” Next scene, next scene you see her, she’s in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She’s got the cap on, she’s got the aviator glasses, she’s wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy’s going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I’m do that through subterfuge, I’m gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it. Okay, now let me just ask you–I’m gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she’s like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?…All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting ******* force, all right? And they’re beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it’s over, and they ******* land, and Iceman’s been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he’s got him, all right? And what is the last ******* line that they have together? They’re all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, “Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!” And what does Maverick say? “You can ride mine!” Swordfight! Swordfight! ****in’ A, man!
umm,….not wanting to sound homophobic,..but umm,…this is a concern !!! 😮
And I thought it was about F-14’s and male-bonding !!! 😎
TNZ
TNZ
By: Smith - 2nd February 2005 at 22:51
Wicked – don’t you just love that :p
By: Snapper - 2nd February 2005 at 22:29
When “Charlie” is first introduced to the class, she struts down the aisle in heels. When she follows Maverick into the building, you can briefly see that she is wearing flats to compensate for Maverick’s short stature.
Great fun film as a kid, haven’t seen it for years. Really upset my English teacher it did. Bloody liberal pansy. Have never actually seen an F14 from memory. Pity really, as it is quite tasty for a jet. (Just don’t tell anyone I said that).
One more thing – it really is a gay icon of a movie. Proof:
Script Analysis a la Tarantino
written by Duane Dell’Amico, Roger Hedden, Neal Jimenez, Joe Keenan, Rory Kelly, & Michael Steinberg
Sid: You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest ******* scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.
Duane (Todd Field): Oh, come on.
Sid: Top Gun is ******* great. What is Top Gun? You think it’s a story about a bunch of fighter pilots.
Duane: It’s about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.
Sid: It is a story about a man’s struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man. You’ve got Maverick, all right? He’s on the edge, man. He’s right on the ******* line, all right? And you’ve got Iceman, and all his crew. They’re gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they’re’ saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?
Sid: Kelly McGillis, she’s heterosexuality. She’s saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They’re saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what’s going on throughout that whole movie… He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they’re going to have sex, you know, they’re just kind of sitting back, he’s takin’ a shower and everything. They don’t have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She’s like, “What the ****, what the **** is going on here?” Next scene, next scene you see her, she’s in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She’s got the cap on, she’s got the aviator glasses, she’s wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy’s going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I’m do that through subterfuge, I’m gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it. Okay, now let me just ask you–I’m gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she’s like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?…All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting ******* force, all right? And they’re beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it’s over, and they ******* land, and Iceman’s been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he’s got him, all right? And what is the last ******* line that they have together? They’re all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, “Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!” And what does Maverick say? “You can ride mine!” Swordfight! Swordfight! ****in’ A, man!
By: EN830 - 2nd February 2005 at 21:42
She’s lost that loving feeling,
She has, I hate it when she does that…………………….
By: turbo_NZ - 2nd February 2005 at 21:40
Unlike the Argentine version against the RN’s SHAR’s !!!!
Tactics are/were the answer to the RNZAF Skyhawks good capabilities.
Anyway my favourite quote to Top Gun is this one:
“….You screw up just this much, you’ll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog s**t out of Hong Kong!..”
By: EN830 - 2nd February 2005 at 20:29
Our RNZAF A4K’s were always more than a match for F14’s, or any other type, without having to be stripped out. But then that’s all down to training, something sadly we’ve completely lost today. 🙁 :rolleyes:
Unlike the Argentine version against the RN’s SHAR’s !!!!
By: turbo_NZ - 2nd February 2005 at 20:08
“..What’s your problem, Kazanski?
You’re everyone’s problem. That’s because everytime you go up in the air, you’re unsafe. I don’t like you because you’re dangerous.
That’s right! Ice… man. I am dangerous…”
😀
TNZ
By: TTP - 2nd February 2005 at 19:59
I was at USAF Pilot Training when it came out in 86, I can’t tell you guys how many young girls made a pilgrimmage to Columbus AFB to meet real “Top Guns” (At least we thought we were!) I got some real mileage at the bars from the movie, especially when I could boast I fly the “black Jet the bad guys fly in Top Gun” when I was in T-38’s.
I do remember the movie theater was full of Pilots and we all laughed at how many regs were being violated during each scene….Like flying fingertip formation while your lead had an engine-inop emergency and the list goes on!
TTP
By: Der - 2nd February 2005 at 19:35
Nah.
Hot Shots takes the cheesy and makes it cheesier.
By: DazDaMan - 2nd February 2005 at 18:26
“I feel the need, the need…. to watch it again!” 😀
By: Dave T - 2nd February 2005 at 18:17
“You never close your eyes, when i kiss your lips, anymorrre….” da da di da :p 😀
By: Flood - 2nd February 2005 at 18:01
The best USAF advert movie (about a post war subject) ever made!
I suspect the USN benefitted somewhere along the line, too.;)
As did Rayban, although Randolphs lost out big time…
A real camembert of a film.
Flood
By: ...starfire - 2nd February 2005 at 17:52
The best USAF advert movie (about a post war subject) ever made!
Sure … even if they had to use Navy-Jets 😉
By: archieraf - 2nd February 2005 at 17:30
“Goose, take me to bed or lose me forever” :diablo:
I’ve got the soundtrack on tape somewhere……must dig it out and give it a blast.
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