October 22, 2008 at 1:08 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7681914.stm
Well those Christian Voice people seem to have a firm grip on reality…
…where do I sign-up? :rolleyes:
By: Arabella-Cox - 21st November 2008 at 12:40
Interesting debate, slightly different angle than the usual argument but nothing there to make me change my opinion ๐ฎ
Not surprised.
Ryan
By: Vicbitter - 21st November 2008 at 08:53
It still works for me here in the US… Wonder if it’s banned over there.
Here’s some links to the mp3 version…
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_1.mp3
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_2.mp3
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_3.mp3Ryan
Interesting debate, slightly different angle than the usual argument but nothing there to make me change my opinion ๐ฎ
By: Grey Area - 12th November 2008 at 08:42
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By: old shape - 9th November 2008 at 19:56
Not sure about Boris intentions regarding atheists, but bendy buses are going and a new version of the routemaster is on the drawing board ๐
This, is good.
By: Vicbitter - 8th November 2008 at 21:13
Of Atheists? LoL.
Is Bozzer bringing back the London bus too?
Not sure about Boris intentions regarding atheists, but bendy buses are going and a new version of the routemaster is on the drawing board ๐
By: old shape - 8th November 2008 at 18:34
Boris is getting rid ๐
Of Atheists? LoL.
Is Bozzer bringing back the London bus too?
By: Vicbitter - 8th November 2008 at 16:55
I nearly got flattened by a bendy bus in Town today. Damned things shouldn’t be allowed.
At least that’s what I believe. ๐
Paul
Boris is getting rid ๐
By: PMN - 8th November 2008 at 16:44
I nearly got flattened by a bendy bus in Town today. Damned things shouldn’t be allowed.
At least that’s what I believe. ๐
Paul
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th November 2008 at 16:07
“Baldness is a hair colour in and of itself.
It is hairyness in non-hairyness.”
See what I did there?
Gray – if you left the “is a hair color in and of itself, your statement might be considered accurate. However, the moment you introduced the “hair color” you messed it up. It’d be like my saying that gasoline is a form of solid in and of itself – it’s solidity in non-solidity. That makes absolutely no sense at all and I’m not sure how it’s supposed to relate to the stuff I posted.
BTW – yes you should skip the first 7 minutes or so. It’s been a while since I reviewed the first part of the tape. The best part is towards the end.
Ryan
By: Vicbitter - 7th November 2008 at 21:54
Do atheists need โfaithโ since they simply need to prove gods do not exist?
How exactly does one prove that something doesnโt exist anyway? :confused:
Err, atheists don’t need to prove God doesn’t exist, why would we?
By: Vicbitter - 7th November 2008 at 21:51
I respect your opinion, but i think, with due respect you missed my point.
I am personally pretty agnostic, I like my perch upon the fence. To me however athiesm, and it’s proponents are as strong in their faith in “nothing” as religious people are in their faith in “god”. To me that is irony of the highest order.
Cheers
Of course I also respect your opinion, but I think you have missed my point, you can’t have faith that something doesn’t exist, you either believe something exists or you don’t, as I have yet to see any evidence of a God or Gods I do not believe they are likely to exist, if someone produces some evidence for a God or God’s then I will change my stance,as I believe any atheist would, that’s not faith or religion.
By: Grey Area - 7th November 2008 at 21:41
To me however athiesm, and it’s proponents are as strong in their faith in “nothing” as religious people are in their faith in “god”. To me that is irony of the highest order.
This is incorrect.
These are the principal features of a religion:
ALL of these are absent from atheism, which is the simple and outright denial of the existence of gods of any kind. Faith does not enter into the equation in any way, shape or form.
By: Creaking Door - 7th November 2008 at 21:28
To me however athiesm, and it’s proponents are as strong in their faith in “nothing” as religious people are in their faith in “god”. To me that is irony of the highest order.
Do atheists need โfaithโ since they simply need to prove gods do not exist?
How exactly does one prove that something doesnโt exist anyway? :confused:
By: Creaking Door - 7th November 2008 at 21:23
Hmmm… Well, for starters try listening to this debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6iEUanJbsw
Have fun with that!
Ryan
But skip the first 7:00 minutes of part 1 (of 14) as the debate doesnโt start till then…
…and having listened that far Iโm not sure I have the strength for all 14 parts!
By: bgnewf - 7th November 2008 at 21:01
What a load of rubbish, do you believe in Leprechauns or fairies at the end of your garden, if not then according to you, your religion is not believing in Leprechauns or fairies.
I respect your opinion, but i think, with due respect you missed my point.
I am personally pretty agnostic, I like my perch upon the fence. To me however athiesm, and it’s proponents are as strong in their faith in “nothing” as religious people are in their faith in “god”. To me that is irony of the highest order.
Cheers
By: Grey Area - 7th November 2008 at 20:35
LOL, but not an accurate analogy and flawed – “Is a hair color in and of itself”.
Ryan
Explain the flaw, please.
By: Vicbitter - 7th November 2008 at 20:13
Make sure you listen all the way through… if you’re going to listen to them.
Ryan
I will, might take me a while but I’ll get there ๐
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th November 2008 at 20:10
“Baldness is a hair colour in and of itself.
It is hairyness in non-hairyness.”
See what I did there?
LOL, but not an accurate analogy and flawed – “Is a hair color in and of itself”.
Ryan
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th November 2008 at 20:09
Thanks for the links I’ll have a listen ๐
Make sure you listen all the way through… if you’re going to listen to them.
Ryan
By: Vicbitter - 7th November 2008 at 18:44
It still works for me here in the US… Wonder if it’s banned over there.
Here’s some links to the mp3 version…
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_1.mp3
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_2.mp3
http://www.hddweb.com/WWW0/92763/Greg_Bahnsen_VS_Gordon_Stein_3.mp3Ryan
Thanks for the links I’ll have a listen ๐