January 17, 2005 at 10:05 pm
Anyone read the bugle on the realaero website, it makes a rather good read! i wont spoil the surprise i’ll leave you guessing!
http://www.realaero.com
🙂 🙂 🙂
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 1st March 2005 at 13:39
did someone say Beech? 😉
By: HP57 - 28th February 2005 at 15:59
Looks like part of the Mustangs rudder survived reasonably intact.
Cees
By: Rocketeer - 28th February 2005 at 11:36
Yes Don, I was thinking the same thing. Is this the famous ‘Kiwi’ Spitfire? Chances are it isn’t. I think he lost four Spitfires during the BofB alone off the top of my head.
I recall reading his book years ago, a brilliant book. He was bombed on take-off and was buried in his Spitfire upside down on one occasion. Just like in the BofB film!
All his Spits were named Kiwi…1, 2, &3+
By: Smith - 18th January 2005 at 23:34
Thanks Galdri – apparently French beaches received lots of Luftwaffe aircraft in 1940! And nice flying John (Illner).
By: galdri - 18th January 2005 at 23:20
Is that Beach, Beech or B!tch? 🙂 🙂
The shore, a tree or a female.
Sorry about that Mark12 😀 Got a little carried away, I guess. Of course it should have been beach 😉 I need to go back to english 101 to brush up my knowledge of an international language 😮
By: Mark12 - 18th January 2005 at 23:14
It’s our language.
The image that Daz posted of the mid-air collision is of a painting by Jerry Candall, a copy of which is hanging over my bed (how sick is that 😮 :rolleyes: ) On the painting the serial is given as P9398. The Me109 was white 2 of II/JG 51, pilot John Illner. The Me109 was severly damaged, but Illner managed to stretch the glide to crash on a French beech.
Is that Beach, Beech or B!tch? 🙂 🙂
The shore, a tree or a female.
By: galdri - 18th January 2005 at 22:55
The image that Daz posted of the mid-air collision is of a painting by Jerry Candall, a copy of which is hanging over my bed (how sick is that 😮 :rolleyes: ) On the painting the serial is given as P9398. The Me109 was white 2 of II/JG 51, pilot John Illner. The Me109 was severly damaged, but Illner managed to stretch the glide to crash on a French beech.
By: DazDaMan - 18th January 2005 at 22:18
Indeed Daz. And Richard Smith’s (very well researched) book mentions this, and disproves it, quoting what he is sure as being the correct serial for Deere’s aircraft on that particular day. Being a modeller, you should know that the accuracy of Osprey books is sometimes somewhat questionable. 😉
Oh well, always happy to be proved wrong or otherwise 😉
This could be a whole thread to itself!
By: Dave Homewood - 18th January 2005 at 22:15
Hence the reason why he titled his book “Nine Lives”
By: DazDaMan - 18th January 2005 at 22:10
From “Spitfire MkI/II Aces: 1939-1941”:
Spitfire MkI N3183/KL-B KIWI of Plt Off Alan Deere, No 54 Sqn, Hornchurch, May 1940
Deere used this aircraft to shoot down a Bf 109E (24 May) and a Bf 110 (25 May) during actions in support of the Dunkirk evacuation, where he was credited with seven victories (plus 1 shared, 1 unconfirmed and 1 damaged) in just five days (:eek: ). The aircraft was shot down by elements of II./JG51 in a bitter action over the Channel on 9 July 1940, its pilot, Plt Off A Evershed, being killed – No54 lost two other Spitfires in this action, with a second pilot being killed and Al Deere being slightly burnt when he had to force land P9398 near Manston.
By: DazDaMan - 18th January 2005 at 20:55
also had a head-on collision with a 109 in another!
I meant this one, sorry. 😮
By: Smith - 18th January 2005 at 20:52
Wow – great image. I read about this very recently, as Al Deere puts it a head on attack in which both opened fire at once, Deere’s aircraft was hit by shells, and then (as beautifully illustrated) the 109 ran right across the top of Deere’s aircraft. Did Deere bail, I can’t quite remember, but I’ve never read/heard what happened to the 109. Is there the other side to this story somewhere?
By: Mark12 - 18th January 2005 at 20:24
I think this is meant to be the Spit that was referred to earlier – dunno which serial it is, however.
No. As said previously not one of the KIWI aircraft.
Mark
By: DazDaMan - 18th January 2005 at 20:21
I think this is meant to be the Spit that was referred to earlier – dunno which serial it is, however.

By: DazDaMan - 18th January 2005 at 20:18
Isn’t that one going to end up looking like this:
??
By: Mark12 - 18th January 2005 at 20:13
Je suis ignorant – who is Brendon?
Apologies my dear gnome. 🙂
Brendon Deere, nephew of the lengendary Al Deere.
Brendon is currently restoring an ex Burmese Air Force Mk IX Spitfire in New Zealand – PV270.
Mark
By: Smith - 18th January 2005 at 20:03
Je suis ignorant – who is Brendon?
By: stewart1a - 18th January 2005 at 19:45
Mark where is it??? can i have a clue coz id like to see her
By: Mark12 - 18th January 2005 at 19:42
isile of wigit i believe 😀
Well actually about 10 minutes from Colchester according to my database. 🙂
Mark
By: stewart1a - 18th January 2005 at 19:38
must be Near sannadoone :D:D:D