Damien Hirst At Ilfracombe.

Funny You should mention the Medway Queen Jim I saw her last Thursday. She is little more than a data plate restoration though.

I agree that building a new hull for a boat is pretty much making a new ship, and there has been a lot of debate about the validity of doing it, but in the case of The Medway Queen, I’m rather enthusiastic.
I can’t wait to see it built and it seems to be going well.

Also, I’d like to see this restored too.

http://www.medwaymaritimetrust.org.uk/johnhamos/index.html

A.

@#25 even Abdelbaset al-Megrahi?

Funny You should mention the Medway Queen Jim I saw her last Thursday. She is little more than a data plate restoration though.

She has come on a lot since then.
If you visit the official website there is a live webcam. (don’t bother tonight though its pitch black!)

BSG/Andy – yes of course that is absolutely true. And we donated before and after for many years. For those who have never experienced them they are truly wonderful havens of peace, care, respect and understated support.

I agree with that.
In a previous life I had to deal quite a bit with hospices and hospice staff.
Even after the death of a patient, they are very good indeed.

A.

With that I totally agree.

And to answer Lincoln 7’s question – if I had “millions” as he put it I would spend it on many things as well as giving some away. In my limited experience, thankfully, of people dying from an incurable disease there is not a great deal that large amounts of money, let alone small amounts, can do. My father died of cancer over several weeks in a hospice where the care was unsurpassable and it cost nothing. Likewise my aunt and uncle. No amount of money would have improved those last weeks of their lives.

My condolences to you, both of my parents died of cancer in the local hospice. The care that they both had there, with the dignity and respect far exceeded what the NHS trust could have offered (they are just not set up for it) and while I agree with you that no money could improve the last weeks of their lives, funding the hospice improves the quality of those last weeks, and supports the families as well, they treated us as “patients” as well, supporting us in our grief, concern and anger.

If I could post pictures I would put a few Andy Goldsworthys on here…

One of my favourites.

A.

With that I totally agree.

And to answer Lincoln 7’s question – if I had “millions” as he put it I would spend it on many things as well as giving some away. In my limited experience, thankfully, of people dying from an incurable disease there is not a great deal that large amounts of money, let alone small amounts, can do. My father died of cancer over several weeks in a hospice where the care was unsurpassable and it cost nothing. Likewise my aunt and uncle. No amount of money would have improved those last weeks of their lives.

Well I think modern art is like all art–and indeed most things.
There’s the good, the bad and the indifferent.

Personally speaking art has brought me some great joy in life and if I was in Paris (a favourite city) I’d be hard pushed to decide between a trip to the Musée de l’Air et de l’Espace and the Musée national Picasso.
I enjoy both equally.
Just a personal thing.
A.

Charlie. If I was ever lucky enough to have Millions “Spare” personally, I would rather give it to somwon, anyone in fact, who was dying of Cancer or other incurable disease, just to let them, and their family have a final great time. Obviously they would never know where the money would have come from, me.
I also respect others feelings, as you, I too, am “Old School”, but just ask yourself, would you get more pleasure looking at a painting, hanging on your wall, or knowing that your actions by making a dying persons few months of life they have left better?. I know which I would choose, At the end of the day, you can’t take it with you, can you?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Lincoln 7 – Yes, of course you are, as are we all, but such a subjective sweeping critricism, just because you don’t appreciate what they appreciate, seems dismissively negative. I grew up learning to respect other people’s likes and dislikes whatever my own feelings might be. As to your second piont, that suggests that they probably have more common sense than money!!;)

Art or not. I would not like to wake up in the morning and see that thing showing half its entrails outside my window!

I am entitled to state my opinion, the same as anyone else on the forum, scathing or not.It may well be a future investment, providing you live long enough to reap the rewards.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Those with more money than common sense, the same as paintings, and those who are willing to spend Millions to obtain one, just a bit of canvas with different coloured oil paint on it, however, if one sees a 65 foot high pregnant female walking down the High Street, we will now know who the father is;)

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Who are you to be so scathing, just because they mean nothing to you? It’s subjective and its their money to do with what they like. And if you know your market it can be very lucrative. Eric Clapton, a notable collector, bought a painting by Richter for £2.1 million nearly 11 years ago and sold it a week ago for £21 million.:D

“Who decides the over blown value of Damien Hirst’s work”.

The market.

Those with more money than common sense, the same as paintings, and those who are willing to spend Millions to obtain one, just a bit of canvas with different coloured oil paint on it, however, if one sees a 65 foot high pregnant female walking down the High Street, we will now know who the father is;)

Jim.
Lincoln .7

“Who decides the over blown value of Damien Hirst’s work”.

The market.

I suppose the next statue by Hirst will be a nude figure of a male with a smile on his face, and with a nice brass plaque stating, “I am the father” on it.standing next to the pregnant female statue.:)
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Or 5 or 6 of them wearing Kappa and Burberry saying “nofink to do witf me mate”…….:rolleyes: I ain’t been near that slapper!”

Who decides the over blown value of Damien Hirst’s work, most of it looks like leftovers from the Biology lab at my old school?.

Even more to the point who actually pays for it?.

He has loaned it to the town for 20 years, so he paid for it.

Whilst an odd thing to see in Ilfracombe, it is now the most accessible of Hirst’s works, so should provide quite a boost to the town – at least in the short term.

I like it!

Bruce

Charlie.
This one’s on the way back to being a going concern.

http://www.medwayqueen.co.uk/

She was at Dunkirk too–both for real and in the old film.
A.

That’s a beauty, Andy, thanks!:D I’ve bookmarked the site to follow progress.