March 8, 2003 at 2:38 pm
Just a question …
Actually I just watched Le fabuleux destain d’Amelie Poulin. Yes, I almost cried. Almost 😉
Think this was one of the best movies I’ve ever seen.
By: kev35 - 13th March 2003 at 10:29
Sorry Comet, I disagree.
If you are working in an emergency environment then yes you may have a point. The status of the patient and of the machinery which is aiding the patient is paramount. When life hangs on sheer technical skill and knowledge there is no room for emotional involvement.
However, I think there is a degree of emotional involvement required in certain circumstances. I’ve seen nurses working in Hospices who are technically brilliant at their jobs, empty the catheter, change a colostomy bag etc etc and then go and sit at the nurse’s station while other patients want someone to talk to because they are scared, or lonely, or just can’t come to terms with their situation? It is then that emotional involvement ensures that you do a good job. I remember an old lady with no family who was into her last few hours, she was on the verge of death. She was terrified of being alone when she died. I stayed with her because no one on the next shift would sit with her. Knowing that I made those last few hours a little more bearable means more than any cardiac arrest I was involved in.
I don’t think we’ll ever agree on this one.
Regards,
kev35
By: Comet - 13th March 2003 at 09:29
Kev35 – I too have worked among terminally ill and injured people and assisted in the euthanasia of several animals, jobs which many people would find upsetting, you have to learn to control the emotions and not “break down” in front of patients and their owners. However, I have come across men who cry publicly at the slightest little thing, and that is not a pretty sight, believe me.
By: Geforce - 11th March 2003 at 18:58
I can understand that having such a job as yours will probably make you more emotionally and that`s probably better, otherwise one can not really help these people if you don`t feel anything for them.
I was just expressing some grief about our western media trying to portret a kind of man that nobody wants.
By: kev35 - 11th March 2003 at 15:59
Geforce and Comet.
Originally posted by Geforce
No offence, but I don`t think people should cry in public. I hate the image the media is showing us of the `new man` who cries and is sensitive. Even though I can get emotional, it`s important you don`t show it in public, at least not in our western world.
I couldn’t disagree more. I once thought the same as you but over the years I have changed. I have worked in a profession in which very strong emotions are drawn to the forefront of everyday life. To deny those emotions is, in my opinion, a mistake. I know we’re rather drifting off topic but this is interesting. I’ve worked with people who are terminally ill and inevitably, with certain people, you develop a strong emotional bond. This person may want to tell you of their fears, or of things that have happened in the past, of which they want their family to have no knowledge. It is an emotional burden and needs to find a release. The old man you have spent the last week nursing dies, over that time you have shared his fears, those of his family and friends. I always remember one old man I got particularly close to, I was there when he died. His family were on their way to the hospital at the time so it was left to me to tell them. I did, and I cried. His daughters said to me later that it made them realise that although they weren’t with him when he died, someone who cared about him was, and that made them feel better. I looked after a 14 year old girl who had taken an overdose, just as a cry for help, not intending to die, but whose liver was so seriously damaged she died before there was a chance of a transplant. On every hospital ward there is a sluice room, where all the personal waste is disposed of, ask any nurse where they go when it all gets a bit too much.
I’ve seen the other side too, the man who says ‘keep your chin up Dad’ and keeps a stiff upper lip, then spends the rest of his life in torment because he never told him how much he loved him. The man who bottled up all his emotions to the extent that when they were finally released he fractured his baby’s skull by throwing her against the wall and broke his wife’s jaw, one arm and several ribs.
If it is in your nature to cry when you become emotional, do so, and do so without any shame. It is just a facet of our character, just one of the million things that make us who we are.
Regards,
kev35
By: Comet - 11th March 2003 at 14:49
Geforce – I couldn’t agree more 🙂
By: Geforce - 11th March 2003 at 14:42
No offence, but I don`t think people should cry in public. I hate the image the media is showing us of the `new man` who cries and is sensitive. Even though I can get emotional, it`s important you don`t show it in public, at least not in our western world.
By: Rabie - 11th March 2003 at 14:39
stuff like schinlders list, or the umpteen thousand peole drowning in titanic (though i cheered when leo drowned 😛 )
rabie 😉
By: kev35 - 10th March 2003 at 20:44
Keltic,
everyone of us has feelings and emotions but many cultures, and particularly males within those cultures are encouraged to repress these displays of emotion. Typical of this is the British ‘stiff upper lip’. In the UK many men feel ‘wimpish’ if they are seen to cry, therefore bottling up these emotions until they are released at another time or in another way, often with disastrous consequences.
Regards,
kev35
By: keltic - 10th March 2003 at 20:05
I have cried many many times. It´s human reaction, specially if one has feelings.
By: kev35 - 10th March 2003 at 19:56
Yes, I have cried at many, many movies. It’s something to do with the triumph of the human spirit over adversity that gets to me. It doesn’t bother me and I don’t try to stifle it. Why should I? It’s just one of the traits in my character that makes me who I am.
Regards,
kev35
By: Glenn - 10th March 2003 at 13:57
Never fully cried..
..but I have started to weep at the end of several films I can’t recall right now. Some of them just do it to you.
By: seahawk - 10th March 2003 at 11:47
Well Titanic was quite a special movie.
To be honest I was cheering quite loudly when Leo was finally dead. (Which did not please the female audience)
“The Thin Red Line” nearly made me cry, but only because it was so boring. The main character was talking to himself nearly during the whole movie – man that was hard.
By: Moggy C - 10th March 2003 at 10:52
There was a TV movie
Released about the time of the 50th anniversary of D-Day
It starred Leo McKern and Alec Guiness as a couple of D-Day vets who go back to Normandy present day looking for someone.
They meet an American vet on the same mission, to find a French girl he had ‘known’ back then, turns out to be the same girl.
Very funny movie, beautifully scripted and well acted (Though AG goes a little over the top in his betrayal of the brain damaged soldier) but at the end, with some help from Lauer Bacall it becomes incredibly moving. Very like the last Blackadder.
Was bad enough the first time I watched it, worse now since the two main actors have left us too.
It’s called ‘Foreign Field’
Look out for it. I treasure my VHS copy, recorded off-air.
Moggy
By: frankvw - 9th March 2003 at 20:58
Well, many movies almost made me cry, but not because of some emotion… Just because they were boring, or badly realized. Titanic was amongst them… :p
By: Geforce - 9th March 2003 at 16:28
The only time I got a reason to cry in Titanic was when I ran out of popcorn
By: KabirT - 9th March 2003 at 15:57
Even i went with my gf to watch Titanic……even she had some tears in her eyes…..while i was trying to control my laughter…not on the movie but on so many ppl crying around me…..personaly i didnt like that movie one bit.
By: Comet - 9th March 2003 at 13:18
There were some touching scenes in Titanic – such as the bit Phamtom II mentioned with the old couple, and then the Irish woman putting her children to bed and telling them the story knowing they were all going to die – but I never cried at any of it.
By: PhantomII - 9th March 2003 at 01:24
I actually got a few tears during Titanic when it showed the older couple that were holding each other as the water rose in their room.
I also felt that certain parts of Saving Private Ryan were sad. I’ve been to the cemetary at Normandy, and it’s a truly moving experience.
By: mixtec - 9th March 2003 at 00:50
” Compare Das Boot with the Hollywood version U-578 or Stalingrad with Enemy at the Gates. “
Geforce- Das Boot and Stalingrad were both Wolfgang Peterson movies. He does a good job at realistic settings, but his storylines are amatuerish and sort of just take up time. However if you see the directors cut of Das Boot (3 hours long I think) that makes more sense and follows the book more completely. The first half hour of Stalingrad was very realistic, but after that he seemed to run out of ideas for a story, and the group of 3 or 4 soldiers portrayed in the film just sort of wander around aimlessly in a deserted Stalingrad.
“The french cinema is intelligent , sometimes boring but too far away from Hollywood’s standards to have a worldwide huge carrier”
This is what Ive heard about french films, more in depth messages to them.
By: Arthur - 8th March 2003 at 19:35
Crying during Titanic? Actually, it was one of the funniest cinema experiences i ever had: my then-GF and me sat in the middle of the theatre. DiCaprio and Winslet are in the water, the ship has just (finally!) sunk… The first sniff comes from the rear-left. A sniff somewhere up front. Two girls start sniffing directly to our right. A girl starts crying quite loud not too far to the left…
The more sniffing and silenced crying i heard, the funnier i began to find the whole situation. If it wasn’t for my company who had the amazing capability to make me behave, i would have laughed out loud during that scene.
I have to agree that European films are often unfortunately overlooked. There is great stuff made over here, but most of it is not only a lot less spectaculair as your average Hollywood-flic, but also the massive marketing budgets of the great Hollywood studios are not available here. Which almost makes it inevitable that great European films have a hard time competing with American cinema – no matter how brilliant, amusing or impressive such films as Kolya, Delicatessen, Goodbye Lenin (must see German comedy about the end of the GDR) or Karakter might be.
But i do want to add that there are plenty of excellent non-mainstream American films as well, often quite ‘ big’ in production and marketing: Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze is absolutely brilliant), Fight Club (despite the totally repulsive Brad Pitt)… Despite plenty of original American talent, they still find it necessary to have US-style remakes of European films which often works out disastrous (anything American with Gerard Depardieu).
I am not holding my breath for the Americanised version of Solaris. How can they ever beat the brilliance of Andrei Tarkovski? And stupidly enough, hardly any of the press releases around this film admit it’s a remake of a Soviet film… sigh.