May 30, 2005 at 4:56 am
Looks like the voter turnout in France was quite high which makes the rejection of the EU constitution all the more convincing.
With another no vote in the Netherlands likely, it would appear that the grand plan is off the rails at for now.
Sauron
By: Flood - 30th May 2005 at 23:38
I have the feeling that I’m reading The Sun here
Thought that The Sun liked Blair – surely it says what he wants?
Flood
By: stewart1a - 30th May 2005 at 22:46
vote no
By: Ben. - 30th May 2005 at 22:05
Welcome back Hand, please stay!!!
By: Hand87_5 - 30th May 2005 at 17:30
Equally, the French appear to bend/break the rules when it suits them, rather than blindly obeying them as we are prone to do.
I’m sorry , but which kind of rule did we break?
When you talk about “blindly obeying” are you talking about the UK financial contribution to the EU ???
Does the British £ makes you more independant since it’s just following the US $??? Please explain me but I don’t understand very well.
I have the feeling that I’m reading The Sun here :rolleyes:
Oooops , you’re right I broke a rule : to stay away from this forum 😀 :diablo:
By: EHVB - 30th May 2005 at 16:56
Can’t wait to vote No in 2 days time! BW Roger
By: Auster Fan - 30th May 2005 at 16:42
Imagine how it would be if you had different currencies in every American state?
But isn’t that the point? Like them or loathe them, they are all part of the same country, Europe isn’t and the fear is that Europe would become a “super state”, which appears to be an underlying concern for many people, although our dear Government would appear to love that to be the case. Sorry, you can stick a European “super state”. Equally, the French appear to bend/break the rules when it suits them, rather than blindly obeying them as we are prone to do.
Sorry, nothing personal but I have no wish personally to become part of a European “super state” or the Euro – I have yet to see any benefit as I have said before.
By: frankvw - 30th May 2005 at 15:53
Not really: first, you have a “national” side on the coins. And second, you can go in the whole “Euro zone” with the same coins in your pocket, no need to change, and loose a lot of money in the process (and believe me, when you have 3 countries at less than 50 miles from home, this helps).
Imagine how it would be if you had different currencies in every American state?
The economical situation would rather be linked to financial laws / decisions, rather than to the currency itself..
By: crazymainer - 30th May 2005 at 14:52
It’s not the end of the EU, but it is democracy in action.
Carzyman just wants to see a rival economic and political bloc out of the way and is indulging in wishful thinking. 🙂
No Grey Area,
I was wondering what effect it will have on European Markets if the Euro goes the way of the Dodo Bird. I personally hate the Euro because I think it takes away the Make Up of each Country in Europe.
RER
By: Auster Fan - 30th May 2005 at 12:53
I for one am pleased. It’s time the erstwhile politicians listened for a change. They seem to have an agenda that doesn’t necessarily reflect popular opinion. The comments that it may still be ratified somehow smacks of complete arrogance IMHO, with the politicians seemingly determined to get what they want regardless of the views of the people who voted them in. I have yet to see anything to convince me that either the constitution or the single currency will benefit this country.
By: frankvw - 30th May 2005 at 10:04
Its good now lets all vote the same ,as for joining the single currency, lets look at what it has done for Joe Bloggs in the countrys that have joined , not so much ,inflation high unemployment etc.
Speaking of single currency, I guess you haven’t travelled abroad a lot?
You might be mixing up several things here..
By: ELP - 30th May 2005 at 09:48
My main source of info on this is topic is http://www.europeanonion.com/modules/news/
😀
By: Swift - 30th May 2005 at 09:30
Its good now lets all vote the same ,as for joining the single currency, lets look at what it has done for Joe Bloggs in the countrys that have joined , not so much ,inflation high unemployment etc.
By: Grey Area - 30th May 2005 at 09:19
It’s not the end of the EU, but it is democracy in action.
Carzyman just wants to see a rival economic and political bloc out of the way and is indulging in wishful thinking. 🙂
Considering that the whole Constitution was meant to be an evil French plot to dominate Europe, I can’t wait to see what the anti-EU Francophobes make of this one. :D:D:D
By: Flying chick - 30th May 2005 at 09:16
Oh dear is all I can say. Let’s hope we can get things back on track soon. It is especially significant because of France’s prominent position within the EU.
I would also like to see the single currency being extended to Britain. I think it’s about time we learned that we can’t exist as a little island anymore!
Fingers crossed!
By: crazymainer - 30th May 2005 at 05:26
So Does this mean the end of the Eu? I ask this as some one who really doesn’t know th praticulars of the whole EU Charter.
Also how will this out-come effect the UK and other larger EU Countrys.
I was talking with some of my European friends a few days back and they said if France vetos it that it could un-due the whole charter and it also might see the end of the Euro what say it to that my EU friends. Personally I would like to see the Euro go and each Country re-enstate their old money. I think it would help the World Economey.