Malayan Airliner

but from now on every system is not going to be able to be switched off on board without an awful lot of alarms being set off.

You can set off as many alarms as you like BUT if you can still shut it all down it’s pointless.It needs a system where it CANNOT be turned off by the crew.

Just a thought, re the Black box, not much good if it’s in very deep water as they think. Why don’t they invent some sort of gadget that is released/detached from an airliner when it goes into Sea Water, and then floats, still being attached to the sunken aircraft, and able to send a distress signal. Even if it only transmits for say….24hrs. It’s not exactly rocket science is it?.

How long should the mooring rope be…? Why not just make the whole aircraft float? Why not…ah, never mind.

Be a lot easier – and, lets face it, much more useful – if there was a GPS reporting system that was able to pin point the location of every airliner with a facility to back track the route if necessary. It could be linked into the navigation system or that used by the on board phone system, but from now on every system is not going to be able to be switched off on board without an awful lot of alarms being set off.

Just a thought, re the Black box, not much good if it’s in very deep water as they think. Why don’t they invent some sort of gadget that is released/detached from an airliner when it goes into Sea Water, and then floats, still being attached to the sunken aircraft, and able to send a distress signal. Even if it only transmits for say….24hrs. It’s not exactly rocket science is it?.
Jim.
Lincoln.7

Absolutely.It should be exposed enough never to get trapped [but not smashed in an impact ],completely separate from anyway the crew can isolate it/bypass it.With the technology that allows space craft to hibernate for years and then fire up why only 30 hours for the transponder sending.

To what end? To help locate airliners that had their transponders deliberately switched-off, and that were deliberately flown thousands of miles off course, and that the pilots deliberately made no distress-calls…

Well thats the whole point of having and being able to recover the black box.There are so many assumptions and conspiracy theories about the crew deliberately doing this that i hope they do find the black box,they need to.
There is no evidence of any of this at all at the moment.

To what end? To help locate airliners that had their transponders deliberately switched-off, and that were deliberately flown thousands of miles off course, and that the pilots deliberately made no distress-calls…

…honestly, I feel sorry for the relatives of those lost, but most people really knew that everybody on board was dead within hours of the airliner being overdue.

It may not be ‘rocket-science’ but it would be a serious technical challenge, to withstand an impact with the sea, deploy a radio transmitter and yet remain tethered to the wreck (where the ocean is over two miles deep). And, even if it was done, what would it achieve? I’m sorry but it may only speed-up the discovery of the wreck on the sea bed; and in most deep-sea airliner losses that does not equate to recovery of bodies.

Just a thought, re the Black box, not much good if it’s in very deep water as they think. Why don’t they invent some sort of gadget that is released/detached from an airliner when it goes into Sea Water, and then floats, still being attached to the sunken aircraft, and able to send a distress signal. Even if it only transmits for say….24hrs. It’s not exactly rocket science is it?.
Jim.
Lincoln.7

I understand that but I was just saying if you look at the bigger image they can be compared with there skeletal structure

Then you did.

Dinosaurs are perhaps long distant relatives of Chickens, but sufficiently far apart as to be completely separate species.

As are these two aviation accidents/incidents.

RE30

no I didn’t I was just pointing out that it can be compared.

well seeming as though most birds are the evolutions of dinosaurs that would mean that dinos are closer to chicken nugets than u think

I believe you missed the point 😉

Re 26

The next time I visit Burger King, I’ll think of that !

you should haha

The last few posts confirm the necessity of having another thread in Commercial!! :highly_amused:

Re 26

The next time I visit Burger King, I’ll think of that !

The only similarities are circumstance. It is a plane. It was over water. It disappeared.
And that is were the similarities, albeit purely circumstantial, end.

With AF447, the Air France flight that went down in 2009 (not 2006), we had a more precise fix on it’s location care of on board communication devices.
Also, as the plane stalled into the sea, its on board systems monitoring sent back a plethora of alerts pertaining to various system failures. Then all went silent. The first wreckage was spotted on day 2. More wreckage and bodies were recovered in the following week.

With MH370, absolutely nothing came from the aircraft that hinted at trouble. The transponder stopped transmitting, yet the plane is tracked turning left on a westerly heading, holding altitude. Not the behaviour of a plane stalling out of the sky.

So far, not so much as a sick back has been found from the flight. Nothing. Nadda. Niente.

It as far removed from AF447 as a dinosaur is from a chicken nugget.

well seeming as though most birds are the evolutions of dinosaurs that would mean that dinos are closer to chicken nugets than u think

^^^ What he said.

how can it not be compared it has been lost a few weeks and they have enough evidence to say it has crashed into the ocean thus meaning it could easily be compared

But we have enough electro jiggery pokery stuff to be able to say MH370 crashed, and in an ocean too. Isn’t that case solved?[/SARCASM]

how can it not be compared it has been lost a few weeks and they have enough evidence to say it has crashed into the ocean thus meaning it could easily be compared

The only similarities are circumstance. It is a plane. It was over water. It disappeared.
And that is were the similarities, albeit purely circumstantial, end.

With AF447, the Air France flight that went down in 2009 (not 2006), we had a more precise fix on it’s location care of on board communication devices.
Also, as the plane stalled into the sea, its on board systems monitoring sent back a plethora of alerts pertaining to various system failures. Then all went silent. The first wreckage was spotted on day 2. More wreckage and bodies were recovered in the following week.

With MH370, absolutely nothing came from the aircraft that hinted at trouble. The transponder stopped transmitting, yet the plane is tracked turning left on a westerly heading, holding altitude. Not the behaviour of a plane stalling out of the sky.

So far, not so much as a sick back has been found from the flight. Nothing. Nadda. Niente.

It as far removed from AF447 as a dinosaur is from a chicken nugget.

Hah!;) Sorry, John – it does seem that way, doesn’t it? I always think that two threads “dilute” the topic. But, hey, who cares? – it’s only a forum. We could start another in Military to take account of the military aircraft involved and Historic – mm, not sure about that.

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Charlie

You are un-nerving me with your insistence on ‘Commercial’ . Do you have a financial stake !

I think you are better informed with regular updating in the thread in Commercial……..http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?129163-Missing-Malaysian-Airlines-B777

This is different-there were all sorts of conspiracy theories ,some credible ,some not so credible but even after all this time they still haven’t found any wreckage,have no ideas why the plane was there,and who even was on the plane.
More questions than answers and those poor families have been driven mad by the not knowing.
Maybe the Malayans got it wrong BUT they really have no more information now than we do – – the problem is you can’t give information you don’t have .

how can it not be compared it has been lost a few weeks and they have enough evidence to say it has crashed into the ocean thus meaning it could easily be compared