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Militaria.

Hoping for a little help from some of you knowledgeable people about a little bit of militaria I picked up yesterday. I’ve been after a 1907 Pattern bayonet to display alongside the relic item I already have. Amongst the items are the following…..

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0207.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0211.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0212.jpg

In the next image, what is the vullet shaped item at the top?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0214.jpg

How about this item?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0219.jpg

Some unused scabbard furniture.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0217.jpg

An Enfield musket plate, but what is the significance of the P-H Marking? Or is it one of the new build items coming from Afghanistan?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d17/kev35_/DSCF0220.jpg

Any help would be appreciated.

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By: Lincoln 7 - 9th January 2012 at 08:56

Guessing here but third from bottom looks like an oiler

Quite right Tony, it most certainly is, and if memory serves me correct, used in WW1 and WW2.
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By: pistonrob - 8th January 2012 at 22:22

as Dads Army CPL Jones would say, “THEY DONT LIKE IT UP EM”

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By: laviticus - 8th January 2012 at 22:18

You know why the Bayonet has a groove in it, it is to let air into the chest and blood out, nasty but efficient.

Blood groove as some folk call is is just simple design physics by removing metal from the middle of a blade you reduce its weight without compromising its strength too greatly.

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By: kev35 - 8th January 2012 at 22:06

Not as nasty as the triangular bayonet.

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By: TonyT - 8th January 2012 at 22:02

You know why the Bayonet has a groove in it, it is to let air into the chest and blood out, nasty but efficient.

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By: kev35 - 8th January 2012 at 21:55

Thanks all for the help.

Laviticus, the relic bayonet I’ve owned for years, the whole thing is in a somewhat parlous state. The wooden furniture has rotted away, the blade has rusted and the leather remains od the scabbard are still attached to the blade. That’s why I wanted one in decent condition to display with it.

The reference to Parker Hale is interesting as along with this stuff is a tool from Parker Hale which I believe is something to do with the conversion of a shotgun’s bore.

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By: pistonrob - 8th January 2012 at 21:50

is the bullet shaped device for dry firing the weapon to test correct operation after cleaning/servicing etc. to give the firing pin a surface to strike. as i remember the firing pin/bolt suffers from fatigue if the weapon is operated without anything in the chamber.

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By: laviticus - 8th January 2012 at 21:34

Guessing here but third from bottom looks like an oiler

The third is an oiler,it looks similar to the Enfield rifle ones ive seen before except they have a scoop affair on the end.
Very nice though.

I love the top bayonet,is that dirt or residue from the old scabbard on the blade.?

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By: laviticus - 8th January 2012 at 21:17

PH could be Parker Hale Ltd
A firearms accessory manufacturer, located in the Gun Quarter of the city of Birmingham.

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By: TonyT - 8th January 2012 at 20:54

Guessing here but third from bottom looks like an oiler

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