“Flug Werk is receiving two reasonably intact Me 109’s at the end of November ‘04.
An “F” as well as an “E”-model. Both aircraft will be restored to airworthiness and the “Friedrich” will form the engineering basis for the rebirth of new Messerschmitt airframes. Along with the exclusive possibility to power the 109’s with all new DB 601 engines, Flug Werk has now the opportunity to revive another very important fighter aircraft of German WII fame. We will report about the project on this as well as on the dedicated Me 109 page in our website in due course.”
Wow
😮 🙂
By: SADSACK - 6th February 2004 at 15:41
re
I think it was given a cosmetic restoration, dispalyed for a little while, then taken away to be finished off?
By: Col. Gibbon - 6th February 2004 at 10:10
Yep Steve, that’s the one, and I think that’s the picture I saw two years back, when it was on display. Does anyone know anything more on what has happened to it recently?
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th February 2004 at 00:18
Originally posted by Col. Gibbon
Anyone know the condition of the Me109 in Poland? It was supposed to be put on display in the museum in Krakow, but on my last visit, it was still not there. Mind you that was two years ago.
Picture of one here on airliners.net:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=500808&WxsIERv=TWVzc2Vyc2No
Is that the one?
By: Col. Gibbon - 5th February 2004 at 23:35
Anyone know the condition of the Me109 in Poland? It was supposed to be put on display in the museum in Krakow, but on my last visit, it was still not there. Mind you that was two years ago.
By: turbo_NZ - 5th February 2004 at 19:33
and there’s at least 1 or 2 of us here in NZ who would too 😀
By: dhfan - 5th February 2004 at 12:20
I’m sure you’re right Mike. Unfortunately, I’ve never heard either, or the V12, only read about them.
I don’t suppose anybody’s heard a Sabre for about 50 years but I bet there’s more than a few would like to. I know I would.
By: mmitch - 5th February 2004 at 10:24
Originally posted by Mike J
DH fan – I think you’re confusing the 3-litre H16 BRM engine of the mid-60s with the marvellous-sounding (but almost undrivable) V16 1500cc supercharged engine developed in the late-40s, which produced around 600bhp (at 12,000 RPM!) by the end of its development in 1953. I can well remember seeing (and hearing!) 3 of these beasts running together at Silverstone and Goodwood a few years back
BRM ran 3 litre V12 engined F1 cars in the late 60s-early 70s. The noisest place I ever stood was behind 3 of them in the paddock!
mmitch.
By: DaveR - 5th February 2004 at 10:06
Memory…
Don’t you just hate it when that happens? My memory seems to have been going for years (and i’ve only just reached 30!!!)
By: Snapper - 5th February 2004 at 08:16
Would have been a national mag or a book probably. No idea on regions. Perhaps somebody told me even. Bah. This is really bugging me now!
By: DaveR - 5th February 2004 at 07:53
Hypnotist…
Thats a shame…I take it that you read it somewhere? Local article or national magazine? Do you remember any region names at all?
By: turbo_NZ - 5th February 2004 at 02:15
DH Fan,
Has anyone there in the UK actually heard a Nap Sabre running ?
By: dhfan - 5th February 2004 at 00:44
BRM and reliability weren’t often heard in the same sentence in those days.
By: turbo_NZ - 5th February 2004 at 00:40
The BRH was impressive, ay,…wonder if it was as “reliable” as a Nap Sabre….:D
By: dhfan - 5th February 2004 at 00:16
The post-war BRM used an H16 layout. I was reminded of it when following that link yesterday as I’ve heard the sound of that described as tearing calico. IIRC, peak power was 565bhp, from a supercharged 1500, in the early fifties!
By: Snapper - 4th February 2004 at 23:59
Can’t find it Dave, sorry. Anyone know any good hypnotists?
I never met Darkie (he’s gone now) but his legacy is something.
By: turbo_NZ - 4th February 2004 at 23:44
Darky Hanson sounds like a fascinating guy. I love the way he described the Napier Sabre.
Some prewar and postwar race cars had H pattern engines in a similar configuration to the Sabre, and even Bristol made one (an H-16)
Sorry for getting off the topc…again !!!:rolleyes:
By: Snapper - 4th February 2004 at 23:15
I don’t mind at all. Just seen it – been away from the PC tonight. Am going to look in the loft now (not for the wings, they ain’t there, for clippings instead).
That link mentions Darkie Hanson of 609. He joined prewar, joined again postwar, and served the Association until his death. he was a Motor engineer by trade, IIRC he used to deal with racing cars.
By: DaveR - 4th February 2004 at 21:15
I sent you a PM Snapper…
Hope you don’t mind!!!
By: dhfan - 4th February 2004 at 02:16
Good link.
Bristol’s “trade secret” was centrifugal casting, which I think I understand but not well enough to write about it here!
By: turbo_NZ - 4th February 2004 at 02:04
Yes, I read that the overhaul times (which were less than 20 hours sometimes !!) rose dramatically to around 120 hours with Bristol’s sleeves installed.
This link is very interesting
http://www.eagle.ca/~harry/aircraft/tempest/sabre/
Cheers
Chris
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