January 29, 2004 at 11:36 pm
“Flug Werk is receiving two reasonably intact Me 109’s at the end of November ‘04.
An “F” as well as an “E”-model. Both aircraft will be restored to airworthiness and the “Friedrich” will form the engineering basis for the rebirth of new Messerschmitt airframes. Along with the exclusive possibility to power the 109’s with all new DB 601 engines, Flug Werk has now the opportunity to revive another very important fighter aircraft of German WII fame. We will report about the project on this as well as on the dedicated Me 109 page in our website in due course.”
Wow
😮 🙂
By: dhfan - 4th February 2004 at 01:19
IIRC, the biggest trouble with the Sabre was the sleeves. Once Bristol had been instructed to tell Napier how to do it, (much against their wishes), the rest of the development was reasonably quick.
By: DaveR - 4th February 2004 at 00:18
Wings…
Any leads you may have would be more than I have at the moment…do you remember where you heard this? Any contacts that may know?
Feel free to mail me… [email]dave@rmrobinson.fsnet.co.uk[/email]
By: Snapper - 4th February 2004 at 00:10
yeah, they became very good. It wasn’t that they were actually bad as such – they just didn’t get the testing needed before being used (due to what was basically an emergency, ie war!.)
As for wings, I seem to recall hearing some coming up in France and then heading down to a scrappie in Spain? May be wrong.
By: DaveR - 3rd February 2004 at 23:25
Sabres…
p.s. after initial teething problems the I am lead to believe the Sabre was no more unreliable than the Merlin was…they all suffered when pushed to the max every time they went up. They can’t have been that bad for the RAF still to be using them in the Tempest TT5 into the 50s.
By: DaveR - 3rd February 2004 at 23:23
Typhoons…
After spending years looking into it the Tiiffies Airframe is of a simple construction and one that could easily be replicated. I have been unable to get drawings so far…but throughout Europe there are all parts to measure apart from wings (there are rumoured to be some in France but no-one has confirmation…anyone?). Until MN235 has her turn for restoration (after cllimbing all over her last year then this must be getting towards to top of the list for a make-over) then the wings will be elusive without those drawings. The most difficult part is the Sabre. There are a couple of dozen Sabres in existence with perhaps only 5 or 6 of those capable of being made airworthy. I know guys that are willing to try this but a. getting your hands on them and b. actually doing it is another matter. I keep trying though!!!
By: macky42 - 3rd February 2004 at 21:06
It’s all down to engines, I expect. If the Chinese built versions of the Russian copies of the German originals weren’t available, I doubt we be seeing the Fw190 either.
By: turbo_NZ - 3rd February 2004 at 20:56
Even just hearing the sound of a Napier Sabre would be awesome on it’s own right.
However, it would be no small task to keep one of those engines running perfectly.
Actually how reliable just were the N. Sabres ?
Lotsa moving parts….
By: Paul Cushion - 3rd February 2004 at 20:35
It’s a shame no one has the funds or willingness to reproduce a Typhoon as per what Flug-Werk have done…….
Or have they? Is it possible? or is the Typhoon too complex???
Seeing one of those fly again would be awesome!!!!!!
Paul.
By: SADSACK - 2nd February 2004 at 14:16
FW189
Hows the FW189 getting on?
By: Arabella-Cox - 31st January 2004 at 18:31
Originally posted by Mark V
I heard the 190 has finally flown. Any report/links anyone?
Nothing heard here, but I’ve been wondering how they’re progressing with it. Last report I read said that the aeroplane was physically ready to start taxi and flight testing at Manching, and that they were just waiting for the German ‘CAA’ to dot the I’s, cross the T’s, and issue the Permit….
By: Eddie - 30th January 2004 at 11:50
Oooh, you cynic, Mike! You mean you don’t believe the story of an original fuselage being recovered from the East, backed up by the 1940s photos?
By: DazDaMan - 30th January 2004 at 11:50
You mean like this one??
By: DazDaMan - 30th January 2004 at 11:39
Just as well I have a model of a G-10 on the Pc at work then 😉
By: Ant.H - 30th January 2004 at 11:32
“No, no, no!! Heathen fools! The BUCHON is by far the best-looking, and most pugnacious of the Me109 family!”
Best looking?? :confused: I think you might need to borrow my specs Daz! :p Best looking of all the 109’s were the wooden tailed G’s and K’s,rather like ‘Black 2’.
As for the Flug Werke 190’s,the last I heard they were sorting out a problem with the propeller and they were still needing clearance to fly from the authorities.As far as I know they haven’t got as far as high-speed taxiing tests yet.
By: DazDaMan - 30th January 2004 at 10:08
Fw190
Nothing on the FW website to say it’s flown :confused:
By: JDK - 30th January 2004 at 10:06
Quite right Daz,
The Buchon is the BEST!
Any aircraft that looks like it’s laughing at you gets my vote.
Remember, even ugly aircraft need friends!
(Still some other DB powered 109s would be worthwhile…)
Cheers
James
PS – I’m sure we’d have heard if the 190 was ‘finished’…
By: Mark V - 30th January 2004 at 09:33
I heard the 190 has finally flown. Any report/links anyone?
By: DazDaMan - 30th January 2004 at 08:37
Although I do like the look of the G-10 as well!! 😉
By: DazDaMan - 30th January 2004 at 08:32
Originally posted by turbo_NZ
Thanks for the info, DaveI’m sure the 601’s will be treated like gold.
I personally think the “F (Friedrich) ” model is the best looking of the ‘109 series. I think it’s the retractable tailwheel which just cleans it up that much nicer 🙂
No, no, no!! Heathen fools! 😉 The BUCHON is by far the best-looking, and most pugnacious of the Me109 family!
I for one can’t wait to see Breighton’s Buchon airborne 🙂
By: duxfordhawk - 29th January 2004 at 23:54
Can’t wait to see a real 109 fly again.