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I have always appreciated your streak of facetiousness, BM!!:D

Surely old tories must see him as a hero? He has made an enormous amount of money (Becoming fabulously rich, I understand from reading the Telegraph, helps everyone in the UK – though I can never seem to find the part that explains how).

As a PM he prevented a Labour Government from spoiling the party for any ‘natural conservatives’.

What’s not to like, Charlie and Linc?

Not really, Linc – the DT and others have been pouring over the Blair empire for the last 5 years! I should think he’d win the Global Oscar for supreme networking skills enabling him to garner huge amounts of dosh for “it’s who you know” not “what you know”. But if organisations and nations are prepared to shell out these amounts of money that’s up to them. As a statesman he signally failed to do anything of any note in the Middle East but as a global brown noser he excels!

Staggering revalation Paul. The stuff that dreams are made of. I wold love to see how much his wife earns as a Q.C. And don’t forget, T.B. more or less “Set her up” with her new office and staff to deal with the influx of illegal? immigrants.
Jim
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Jim, Tony was right. Things did get better for him!

If this is to be believed http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/11670425/Revealed-Tony-Blair-worth-a-staggering-60m.html

Paul, Just remember what Tony Blair said, “Things can only get better”. Or should he have said, “Worse”?.
Jim

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21,937 prisoners, was from a minority ethnic group. This compares to around one in 10 of the general population.

Out of the British national prison population, 10% are black and 6% are Asian. For black Britons this is significantly higher than the 2.8% of the general population they represent.

Overall black prisoners account for the largest number of minority ethnic prisoners (49%).

At the end of June 2014, 28% of minority ethnic prisoners were foreign nationals.

According to the Equality and Human Rights Commission, there is now greater disproportionality in the number of black people in prisons in the UK than in the United States.

Source Prison Reform Trust

That is the number out of 86,000 in British jails(2015 figure)

This is useful – Puts a lot of made-up stuff to bed: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6996925/3-18092015-BP-EN.pdf/b0377f79-f06d-4263-aa5b-cc9b4f6a838f

We live in a multi-racial and multi-lingual Britain. Like it or not, it is not the nation of Queen Victoria where we hang monkeys on suspicion of being French.

Wasn’t Victoria German, or at least her Albert was?
Immigration doesn’t bother me. I just don’t get a feeling the government has control over what is happening.
I wish we could get some actual facts.

From that point of view I agree!! And of course it works best where immigrants have not chosen to be “ghettoised” and have to a greater extent assimilated. Picking up on an earlier point our local health practice GP roster is about 50/50 indigenous Brits and Asian/Middle Eastern immigrants. To a man/woman, they are highly regarded and popular GPs with patient waiting lists. And I cannot believe we are in a minority here…

Fair enough. It’s not exactly a utopia, with suspicion and voluntary ghettoisation on all sides. I guess I worry about adding to it.

We live in a multi-racial and multi-lingual Britain..

Well we do and we don’t, BM, that’s the problem. Labour’s misguided policy of multi-culturalism has been a dismal failure, as accepted by many of it original proponents and enthusiasts. But it’s too late to turn the clock back so instead of being a relatively homogeneous British society made up of a marvellous mix of ethncities, we have the exact opposite.

We live in a multi-racial and multi-lingual Britain. Like it or not, it is not the nation of Queen Victoria where we hang monkeys on suspicion of being French.

Why don’t we just relax a little – carry on happily being ‘White British’ if indeed that is what one is, and not join in looking around waiting rooms checking the origin and skin colour of our fellow patients and their families. Whatever happened on that day, the facts are what they are.

Come round to my Doctors waiting room then. 16 people in there,6 speaking in some European language,4 of Asian origin,1 Chinese and some one I could not place having a go at the receptionist because he could not get free treatment as he had only been in the country 10 months. The other 4 of us were white British. I was there to support my wife so you could say 15 patients. Doctors 3 are not of British origin 5 are.

Would we need so many immigrant NHS staff if we did not have so many immigrants I wonder?

Well around 13% of the UK population are first generation immigrants, and about 26% of NHS doctors fall in this category. Reach your own conclusion from this.

Moggy

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Caliphate ? It means Islamic Caliphate. The process has begun and will continue via the insertion by any means, of Islamic supporters in to positions of power in first, Local Authorites, then County Councils and the House of Commons.

Demographics will take care of the rest. This is my personal forecast based on recent events in Tower Hamlets, Bristol, Bradford and up to half a dozen other locations.

Discussions about the possibility of military action in the Middle East by British troops is a non starter. Why ? Because of the vocal presence of millions of people in this country of the Islamic faith.

Would we need so many immigrant NHS staff if we did not have so many immigrants I wonder?

Moggy.

My recent foray with the NHS, thankfully now ended, has over the last 30 months of having a small ulcer on my right 5th toe treated but eventually having it amputated, caused by the pleasure of being a close companion with Type I Diabetes over the last 53 years, have allowed me to take notice of the full spectrum of different nationalities that work within the NHS in both Hospitals and my local GP Surgery.

There are a lot of foreign nationals living in the UK that are working in job’s that need their constant attention to keep the NHS wheel turning for us all, eg kitchen and cleaning staff, orderlies etc.

Then there are the Nurses, Doctor’s & Consultants that come from overseas to work within the NHS.

Like in all walks of life you get the rough with the smooth and over the time I’ve been within the NHS merry-go-round system I’ve seen both and downright bad medical staff that work within the Hospital. GP and associated medical people that work with patient, eg Podiatrists Physiotherapists etc…

One thing I did find and this was only something that I found purely by fluke as I was looking for the cost to the NHS for the use of VAC’s in chronic wound therapy, was the salaries given for various staff wanted at the hospital I was being treated at.

This is one instance of many, for the job of a Grade 5 Staff Nurse from the UK and abroad, which you might find interesting…

UK Salary: £23,000 – £28,000pa
European: £23,000 – £36,000pa – Plus traveling expenses to the UK – Plus After 3 Months more traveling expenses towards them getting home

I spoke with a number of Nurses while I was in Hospital, about the Salary discrepancies for UK versus European and just let say it was a sore point to the UK Nurses.

God only knows what was offered to get a GP or Consultant over when those in the UK already get huge salary’s

In the real world the NHS and GP’s surgeries would grind to a halt without ‘immigrants’ who keep it running in the gaps between their AK47 training. The funding will come from having a younger population of working age paying tax and national insurance, rather than the sponging wrinklies of today (I can say that, I’m allowed).

Don’t believe everything you read in newspapers in the supermarket. If you do I hope you are stocking up with Damart long-johns as the Express is yet again predicting the worst winter in several million years.

Moggy

So, All those we let in will speak English, walk straight into a job, and help to pay for our Pensions etc?. Moggy, your not from this Planet,Or in reality, are you saying only let those in who are skilled professionals, who could do what you think they could do?.and NOT draw a single penny from the system?.

Jim
Lincoln .7……………………………..Wrinkly ?, yes, scrounger, NO.