Scottish armed forces – what might they look like?

Utter tripe – it’s called democracy…

The difference between Scotland wanting out of the UK, and say… the UK wanting out the EU for example would be what exactly?

I’ll tell you. There isn’t one, because neither will happen.

Just using a democratic decision making process doesn’t automatically override law. As long as your laws are made in Westminster, you only have a limted say in things.

Arthur…

Find the wording and I’ll accept it. I’m looking here, but have yet to find it –

Union with Scotland Act 1706
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Ann/6/11/contents

Union with England Act 1707
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aosp/1707/7/contents

Absolutely right. I believe the wording of the Union Treaty stated that the Union was in place until such time as the people wanted it removed.

Personally I don’t particularly agree with independence for Scotland but I completely understand the reasons. The UK has always been stronger when it is united. As a Scot living in England, it would also effectively make me a foreigner in my own country.

Utter tripe – it’s called democracy…

It’s well past the purile name-calling stage – independence is going to happen because the majority of the Scottish electorate want it.

What they want and what they actually get are two very different things.

Short of starting a civil war, under what authority can Scotland opt out of the United Kingdom? Scotland (whether the SNP like it or not) is still a constituent country of the UK, so long as the Treaty of Union exists.

It will be interesting to see how far this goes before Mr Salmond ends up facing treason charges – given that to end up in the position he holds he had to take an oath to Her Majesty the Queen.

…Does that mean Scotland will be along with it’s two main banks remain a huge debtor of the rest of the rest of UKs’ taxpayers while happily removing the Blue from the Union flag? Or has Mr Salmond a plan to pay the rest of the UK back on behalf of RBS and BofS billions?…

I don’t know about the RBS, but the Bank of Scotland’s prosperity and acumen went steeply downhill the instant the were taken over by the Halifax, and diluted by their dud management. The average career in the Bank of Scotland was 32 years, in the Halifax it was just 2 years – that speaks volumes.
And it got even worse when Lloyd’s took over – and neither had their roots in Scotland.

Is this ‘without any blue on it’ permanent or just until the oil runs out in 40 years?:rolleyes:

Independence means much much more than just cash – look at all the scores of nations who have left the British Empire and Commonwealth. Some have become extremely impoverished in the process, but none of them have ever asked to be allowed back in – on the contrary, they couldn’t wait to get rid of dear old Blighty…

It’s well past the purile name-calling stage – independence is going to happen because the majority of the Scottish electorate want it.

Not according to any poll I’ve ever seen. Voting SNP does not equate to voting yes in a referendum.

……… but the rest of the UK are soon going to have to get used to a Union flag without any blue on it…

Is this ‘without any blue on it’ permanent or just until the oil runs out in 40 years?:rolleyes:

A sad day when it does arrive

A sad day when it does arrive.

There is so much in the way of real ‘brains’ in Scotlands’ literate population and how they can have permitted the election result baffles me after the scandal of the Scottish banks was public long before the last election result.

Does that mean Scotland will be along with it’s two main banks remain a huge debtor of the rest of the rest of UKs’ taxpayers while happily removing the Blue from the Union flag? Or has Mr Salmond a plan to pay the rest of the UK back on behalf of RBS and BofS billions?

I still keep a copy of the St James version of the Holy Bible on my bedside cabinet in hope though.

It’s well past the purile name-calling stage – independence is going to happen because the majority of the Scottish electorate want it. They knew exactly what the SNP policies were when they gave them a landslide victory in the last election.
National caricatures and snide put-downs are all very well, but the rest of the UK are soon going to have to get used to a Union flag without any blue on it…

A fish wielding Commander in Chief I guess

A fish wielding Commander in Chief I guess.

Salmond by name Salmon by weapon.

Assisted by another fish Nicola Sturgeon

What a load of complete cods wallop the Scottish First Minister comes out with at a serious economic crisis period in time when he should be standing shoulder to shoulder with England, Wales and Northern Ireland and burying all the extreme Nationalism for good.

An island survives on being united.

He should perch himself on top of the Wallace Monument in Stirling and be a modern day Braveheart but safely out of public earshot.

gordon brown driving an hillman imp pick up with rab c nesbit on the machine gun in the rear flying the saltaire flag !!

but wait a minuite arn’t most of our armoured divisions made up from scottish regiments already most comming from cavalry regiments like the royal scots greys etc !!

A new battlefield weapon and a first-generation man-launched missile system is currently under development.

Carry on up the Khyber I loved that film!:D

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Scottish Armed Forces turned out to be similar in size to that of Denmark,
Not having to act like we’re a major Superpower in places like Iraq and Afghanistan will save us a fortune…

Like I have said before Al, regarding our lads and lassies in Afghanistan, we are fighting a war exactly the same as the Americans in Vietnam, and like them, we will never win.
I would like to see all our Forces pulled out, but very much doubt it for quite a number of years yet, unfortunately.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Scottish Armed Forces turned out to be similar in size to that of Denmark, since the population is roughly the same.
Given our coastline, perhaps the Navy would get the biggest share, then the Air Force, then the Army, but a combined force like Canada’s would seem more sensible to me.
Not having to act like we’re a major Superpower in places like Iraq and Afghanistan will save us a fortune…

Dr Strangelove. That made me laugh. I was thinking all serious about devolution then scrolled down and saw “the face of Scottish Armed Forces..” Brilliant thank you.

How are they going to pay for this? We are having a Job paying for what we have now. Perhaps we will share the one helicopter, one ship, and all the unemployed? They’ll have them Mondays Wednesdays & Fridays, We’ll have the the rest of the week.

Drunk men in skirts 😀

His policy will mainly involve keeping bases open and people employed, focusing on the units and such with the most electoral and PR value, with little consideration for actual military capabilities. So mostly an army with an air force composed of light planes and some helicopters, and navy with some patrol ships.

Scottish armed forces – what might they look like?