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Moggy, what I meant was that it is not amicable in the sense that Scotland’s intention to independence goes without the British Government’s blessing. It is a one-sided affair. All three main parties in Westminster support the continuation of the Union. And the British people as a whole are not being given the benefit of a referendum to express their opinion. In constitutional terms it is a unilateral secession.

The Scots have my blessing if that’s what they choose, but I fear they have not thought it through at all and that, in the unlikely event they succeed, may well live to regret it. By then it will be too late, of course.

But this is not an amicable separation

That’s your opinion Charlie, not necessarily fact.

For many of us it is totally amicable. If that’s what the Scots decide they want then they can go with my blessing and I guess that of the majority South of the border.

That isn’t the same though as acceding to all of Salmond’s pie-in-the-sky demands. As I have said before, in the original version it was an independent Scotland, in the euro and mimicking Iceland and Ireland, now suddenly the pound is essential to the puffed-up little chap in his quest to become Norway without the Hydro-Electricity.

Well tough.

Moggy

Constitutionally you are right, for sure. But this is not an amicable separation – it is unilateral secession from an ancient and constitutional union, with limited consultation and without approval. And with that comes all the baggage of the responsibility for and implications and consequences of the decision. Co-operation from the larger partner should not be expected.

Tory MP Tim Yeo – “This is far too important an issue to allow the Scottish tail to wag the British dog.”
That’s the sort of talk we can’t hear enough of!

But he isn’t wrong though.You cant have a smaller part of a greater populace dictating what will happen.

Tory MP Tim Yeo – “This is far too important an issue to allow the Scottish tail to wag the British dog.”
That’s the sort of talk we can’t hear enough of!

Who has recently been deselected as a candidate for 2015, so he won’t be around much longer- thankfully.!! I think you’re clutching at straws there, Al.:)

Still it would be a great boost for the building industry rebuilding Hadrians wall. Think we could have a checkpoint “Bonnie Prince Charlie!”

Yup John, and Salmond was on the news still insisting that he would fulfil their worries with a common currency and it would be all ok… He still does not get it.

Tory MP Tim Yeo – “This is far too important an issue to allow the Scottish tail to wag the British dog.”
That’s the sort of talk we can’t hear enough of!

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Looks as tho’ they’re preparing to jump ship already. Maybe it’s just a shot across the bows ! Report D. Tel. 27/2/14

Will ye no cum back agen ?

This story is as old as some of the Scottish hills! In fact ever since Continental Europe decided to advance their clocks in the Summer (we all used to have the same time during the Summer months) there has been a debate about advancing ours another hour. I don’t think it will make any difference whether the Scots p**s off or not, frankly.

Bummer.

28 October 2011 Last updated at 17:11 (Today)

No idea what the update was about.

Moggy

Well they’ve been a long time thinking about it. That article is from 2011. :highly_amused:

This is helpful too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249

It means we can have lovely long summer evenings here without inconveniencing the Scots who can stick to GMT and GMT +1

Moggy

As ever Shakespeare has the words for it….I wonder if Salmond ever ponders Macbeth!!

“…………………….For mine own good,
All causes shall give way. I am in blood
Stepped in so far that, should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o’er.
Strange things I have in head, that will to hand,
Which must be acted ere they may be scanned.”

Companies setting up contingency plans to bail out of Scotland says everything, no Company is going to spend millions and millions simply moving, if they thought that Scotland had a rats chance of going it alone succesfully…
Add to that the thriving Scottish economy that Salmond keeps going on about, and the fact major player are now looking at upping stick and shifting south thus reducing that thriving economy further must be a disaster for him. These Companies have built their large businesses on skill and sound financial planning…. If they do not think its a viable concept, i am stunned that Salmond still does.

There is no call for rancour in this matter.

Moggy

None, but it will be unavoidable such is the schism Salmond is creating. Poor auld Scots, I say!:(

Moggy, is it only me that thinks your being sarcastic and taking the P)ss?:D

Not at all. I am very upset by the West Lothian farce, which leads me to have much sympathy with the Scots in the reverse situation.

True my motives are largely selfish, believing that we will be significantly better off if Scotland goes away. But since the Scots are equally convinced as to how much benefit they will receive it is a win/win and as such a no-brainer to me.

I do have a sneaking suspicion that a few years in they will be in for a very hard time, much as Iceland and Ireland, the original Salmond prototypes, discovered. I hope then that we are generous enough to help out a little.

There is no call for rancour in this matter.

Moggy

No, he’s being sincere – I presume he refers to Scottish seat MPs voting on English matters in Westminster, which would end on independence…

Nor should you be, which is why I am a wholehearted supporter of the ‘Yes’ campaign. I’d hate to live in a country where elected MPs from another country voted on decisions in my country that didn’t affect them in the slightest. Moggy

Moggy, is it only me that thinks your being sarcastic and taking the P)ss?:D

Thanks for all the reassuring comments since my last post. Very kind of you.