Scrapyard Photos; Any More?

and, of course, they are *SO* easy to make compared to a Spitfire!

You’re not wrong there old chap 😉

Reckon its a Swedish Osprey?

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Spaning/208S9-2.htm

Best wishes
Steve P

The engine is an early Bristol Pegasus , pic. setting looks different to airframe ones

Osprey has an inline Kestrel so engine doesn’t go with airframe, except …….for the Swedish Osprey’s which had the radial Pegasus,
now see this thread on Swedish Osprey SE-OYR remains with the Swedish A.F. Museum
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46779

I have been sifting through a few more photos and slides for the dispersal of Robert Rudhall’s collection on ebay and came across these.

I do not know what the aircraft is………………

The engine is an early Bristol Pegasus , pic. setting looks different to airframe ones

Melvyn, it certainly looks like a Hawker Osprey to me!! Only Hawker bipe that had those bracing struts….and the Osprey is extinct so that is one gem of a project!!

As a Hurri builder, it never ceases to amaze me how much development Hawker got from their tried and tested design practices!

and, of course, they are *SO* easy to make compared to a Spitfire!

There are some spars in one of the photos that look very Hawker.

Melvyn, it certainly looks like a Hawker Osprey to me!! Only Hawker bipe that had those bracing struts….and the Osprey is extinct so that is one gem of a project!!

As a Hurri builder, it never ceases to amaze me how much development Hawker got from their tried and tested design practices!

Idiot I am!! Its Hawker Osprey…sorry for being so thick!!

There are some spars in one of the photos that look very Hawker.

The first of Mark12’s phots shows a Hawker origin cockpit frame. The joint G is virtually identical to that fitted to a Hurricane. BUT it is not a Hurricane, my suggestion would be a Hawker bipe….something like a fury or Hart, Tomtit?

Idiot I am!! Its Hawker Osprey…sorry for being so thick!!

The first of Mark12’s phots shows a Hawker origin cockpit frame. The joint G is virtually identical to that fitted to a Hurricane. BUT it is not a Hurricane, my suggestion would be a Hawker bipe….something like a fury or Hart, Tomtit?

There are lots of Vincent and Vildebeest airframes in NZ recovered from dumps and crash sites.

The Subritzky family have the most complete one, which they’re restoring. It is Vincent NZ311, which was reduced to spares in 1944 at Ohakea and recovered from a dump by Don Subritzky.

The RNZAF Museum holds remains from Vincents NZ355 and NZ357, and Vildebeests NZ102 (which they’re restoring), NZ105, and NZ124. One of these was recovered from a dump at Marton by Don Subritzky and Charles Darby – Charles told me they saw a wingtip sticking out of the ground and thought it was a Harvard so went digging. That one went to Motat, and then when the RNZAF Museum restored the Motat Mosquito wing they were given the Motat Vincent/Vilde holdings.

I know that the fuselage remains of two further Vincents were recovered by a friend of mine, Dave Lockhead and his friends, from a dump in Blenheim. They were buried too and had to be archeologically excavated. So I doubt it’s these two.

These photos do look like Vincent/Vildebeest, I don’t know which one but I’d start with the Subritzkys as they’re the experts and this could be their machine. I’m sure an email to the RNZAF Museum would also provide more info, as they will know if it’s one of their’s. If you need any contact details Mark, PM me.

Dave Lockhead told me there are lots more remains that no-one knows about too, stored away by collectors. He did not elaborate as to where and owned by whom.

Mark – I think from looking at the MOTAT website and others that probably at least two Vildebeast cockpits/frames and a Vincent were recovered from various sites.
Both the RNZAF museum aircraft and the Subritsky machine are under restoration so unless someone can identify the picture location identification might be difficult.

New Zealand request.

Can Dave Homewood or A.N.Other please confirm if this is either the Subritsky or the Wigram Vildebeest?

Mark

Mark,

I’m pretty sure that it’s a Vildebeeste/Vincent. The Putnams Vickers tome has a photo of an uncovered Vildebeeste and everything fits.

David,

Thanks for that. I’d love to see one. 😀

Best wishes
Steve P

Vickers Vildebeeste or Vincent?

Best wishes
Steve P

The Vincent looks promising. So New Zealand then?

Mark

Steve – I believe the RNZAF museum have a fuselage and I also seem to remember that the might be another one at Dairy Flats.

Oops. You posted while I was typing, David.

I think that the airframe in NZ is a Vincent.

Best wishes
Steve P

Vickers Vildebeeste or Vincent?

Best wishes
Steve P

Last guess and possibly the strongest one ! Vickers Vildebeeste parts in New Zealand.

David,

Yep, I considered both of those but the pair of streamlined struts do not seem to fit.

Mark

On the other hand they could be Swordfish bits in Canada!