The events of 11th September 2001

I request that phixers post be removed, it is highly offensive and grossly inaccurate.😡 😡

My first ever idea for novel was a thriller of somewhat tragicomical bunch of ex-Stasi and KGB officers who tries to attempt a major scale terrorist attack in USA. They called themselves “The league of november 11th”. Now this idea had emerged in my mind long before the actual terrorist attacks and after the biggest fuzz was calming down and after media started to use the 9-11 tag, I realized that bloody hell they stole my tittle…
…Well not efactly the title but at least the same 11th day. What would have happened if I would have tried to sell the book to publishers??

What was so special in 11th day???:mad: If you some odd reason just have to fly planes against tall buildings why not pick the 10th or 12th day???

…Bloody terrorists…:mad:

Starting to go into subjects not fit for Commerical Aviation forum. Wide scope of discussion available in GD…

It’s been six years since the USA was attacked by extremists armed with two Boeing 762’s and two Boeing 752’s, …

It has been six years since the conspiracy to carry out a false-flag attack came to fruition, a conspiracy to create ‘The New Pearl Harbour’, as stated in the Project for a New American Century Document.

There are far too many questions unanswered by official reports from FEMA, NIST and the 9/11 Commission Report, aka the Kean/Zelikow report. I have looked at these and they don’t add up.

Cell-phones on Flight 93 could not have worked as claimed.

WRT the Pentagon attack it is almost impossible for a Boeing airliner to have flown the course required without disintegrating as the stresses involved would have been extreme. Besides even an experienced military pilot would have had difficulty carrying out the maneuver with such precision let alone a supposed hijacker with only a few hours on Cessnas and even then not judged to have much talent for that. The lack of sizeable aircraft fragments outside the Pentagon or marks on the lawn, necessarily left if a low flying Boeing had been the missile, give the lie of the official report.

What happened with NORAD that day? The most advanced military organization in the world was paralyzed that day by exercises carried out under the direct supervision of Dick Cheney who had conveniently changed the rules governing such situations a few months before, see below.

As for WTC1, 2 and 7 those came down by controlled demolition. WTC7 had no other reason to come down and the precise order of events when watched carefully demonstrates that explosions came first before any collapse.

Have a look at this if you do not believe:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025

I strongly suggest that you read ‘Crossing the Rubicon: the Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil’ by Michael C Ruppert for then you will discover that Cheney was put in charge of the National Energy Policy Development Group immediately after the Bush administration took office. As long ago as between late 1998 and early 2000 returns of oil reserves from the Caspian basin were lower, much lower, than anticipated, it should be noted that Condi’ Rice was an expert on Kazakhstan. This and the realization that dwindling supplies could not be got out easy without secure pipelines through territories such as Afghanistan and Iran, and with Iraq sitting on top of supplies and looming trouble from Saudi Arabia inspired contingency strategic planning at the very top of the US government began during the last years of the Clinton administration and there is evidence that the WTC was a potential target then.

To keep the records of the NEPDG secret from the American people Cheney went to great lengths, including taking Justice Antonin Scalia ‘duck hunting’, to get a supreme ruling to that effect in July 2004, but we run ahead here a bit.

Now I’ll quote Ruppert, “In May 2001 President Bush placed Dick Cheney in charge of all planning for a terror attack, effectively giving him complete control over FEMA, the military, everything. In June 2001 the NORAD scramble protocols that had worked efficiently since 1976 were rewritten to take most decision-making power out of the hands of Air Force field commanders. Although minor exceptions in those protocols still allowed commanders to act on their own in certain cases, as General Arnold did, the change itself provided deniability for elements of confusion that Dick Cheney was going to deliberately engineer and control.”

This is not the only context where Ruppert highlights Cheney’s involvement.

With a crime one always has to consider who gains. Also ‘follow the money’.

Recall that the WTC was the repository for files of the SEC with ongoing high profile investigations into corporate malpractice and fraud (there is a similar link with the Oklahoma bombing). Also many world clearing banks had huge gold deposits in the vaults which was ‘destroyed’. It should be noted that the value of gold had been artificially kept low so as not to upset the money markets.

The WTC was also, as highlighted by Gage, a building in trouble with low occupancy, increasing maintenance costs and problematic demolition scenarios. It was also purchased in the months before the attacks, a huge insurance premium taken out – which was collected afterward. How convenient and how prescient was that ‘terrorist attack’ clause! What an environmental disaster for the survivors in New York and its environs who have been showing increased incidence of many otherwise rare medical conditions with some having died as a result. The crime continues and is a disgrace on the whole nation and particularly those who are still in denial about the true cause of these terrible events.

I accept that many fear for their employment and safety and hence keep quite about ‘what they know’. Others may not understand the relevance of their knowledge. It is clear that those who showed signs of stepping out of line were intimidated – hence the anthrax attacks, another theme well understood and discussed by Ruppert in his book.

Other topics Ruppert mentions are the strange landings of two flights at Cleveland later in the morning of that fateful day and of the links of companies, and their key personnel, engaged in remote flight control developments with the Bush administration. The Pentagon hit in particular was from a flight path that even a top-gun military pilot would find all but impossible let alone some supposed terrorist with a few hours on a Cessna. Don’t forget I am familiar with military jet aircraft and have flown in a few.

One has to view the attacks on the WTC within the context of the broader economic and geopolitical imperatives and the overarching greed of those in charge of the corporate world. In this respect Ruppert’s book is a MUST READ, no doubt about it.

The above is only the tip of the icebergs of challenges to the official versions of events and of the references which back up alternative scenarios for the truth.

I’m not going to get into a political mud flinging contest over whose fault it is. It has been brewing for a long time. The change in airline security has saved at least one A/C full of people, the shoe bomber! What would have happened if the IRA had started blowing up airliners?

Last week we had a woman (non-Arab looking) on a flight into TIA drop a note to a flight attendent saying she had a bomb, then ducked into the Lav. The attendent and a passenger proceeded to beat the door down with a fire extinguisher. She had no bomb, just “Off her meds”

Would they have reacted like this pre 911? People are more aware. Some people now refused to fly on 9-11. The world has changed.

Not sure how anyone can forget. A totally unjust attack on Americans for no other reason than that they were Americans. The world is by no means a safer place thanks to the likes of Bush and Blair who blindly attacked other countries.

We’re gonna be at a threat from terrorism for a long time yet, they’ll always find ways to kill us, just as we’ll find ways to kill them.

Don’t like that tag either. I remember watching it live at about 2am and it was the 12th of September here.

That and the fact that it sensationalizes everything , the media is known to do that so we just have to live with the fact…To them 911 sells .

Regarding being safe and all that . I am not sure , i dont think that idiots at TSA are worth the money we have spent on them , they need to be much better other then that it was pretty safe before 911 . I am also greatly annoyed at the OVERREACTION and OVERVIGILANCE that many passengers are now showing to well “ARAB LOOKING PEOPLE” . This is absolutely insane , everyone being scared by the media then looking to become HEROS when onboard the aircraft . I have many freinds from the middle east , india , pakistan and when we travel together i hate it when people look at as if they are a part of a sleeper cell or something .

BTW I never did like that media favoured “nine-eleven” tag…

Don’t like that tag either. I remember watching it live at about 2am and it was the 12th of September here.

It was the day the world as we know it changed forever..how could you forget it??

Hm. I’m afraid w/o this reminder I’d had already forgotten it …

I don’t think anyone could really forgot this really unless you live in a country which has not been affected by this..

Its been a quick 6 years for me, but I’m sure its opposite for others..

RIP..

RickT

Hm. I’m afraid w/o this reminder I’d had already forgotten it …

Its different for those who lost someone close that day unfortunately .

Hm. I’m afraid w/o this reminder I’d had already forgotten it …

Airline safety has definately improved for the better.
However, i actually felt safer before 9/11 happened.
With wars still going on, that we were promisied would be over very soon. And occasional terrorist attacks, i definately felt safer before it all happened.

I was working the day of the Glasgow attack, and nothing will convince me its getting better.

Can’t believe its 6 years already. Todays date will never be forgotten. Especially because it happened on a Tue in 2001.

NY 11/9/2001
AA11, UA175, AA77, UA93 = We will always remember! 🙂 🙂 🙂