U.S.A Second Amendment re-think

Yes… Alcohol, Tobacco and Fudge

Can’t have anything dangerous for the poor little kiddies of the Good Ole US of A

Moggy

Sorry Moggy but your last just conjures up a vision of a SWAT team bursting into a house, all suited up and armed to the teeth and the leader shouting at the bemused four year old “Move away from the egg and lie face down on the floor now!”

Mind you, would it be SWAT or ATF Chocolate Squad?

Regards,

kev35

1. Kinder Surprise eggs, United States

U.S. Customs and Border Protection seized about 25,000 Kinder eggs in 1,700 separate incidents in 2010, and the agency reissued a longstanding warning against the import of the chocolate treat this year right before Easter.

Kinder Surprise eggs are banned because they have “a non-nutritive object imbedded” in them, and thus pose a potential safety hazard to children below the age of three.

American children have to travel to Canada to know the delights of the world’s greatest chocolate-plus-toy combination.

Moggy

I hope that one of our friends from over the Pond, can tell us, (If true) just exactly why Kinder eggs have been indeed banned. Could it be that a young child may choke on the small toys that are in the eggs?.Possibly a small imitation plastic gun. 🙂
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Cooper spectacularly missed the point anyway. The caption states that ONE child is holding something banned in America. Funny that because I have never in my whole life read of twenty some odd kids and teachers dying because they were given a Kinder chocolate egg.

Regards,

kev35

I just thought it was an interesting comment on a sad society that bans little chocolate eggs to protect children but can’t bring itself to address more serious threats.
Moggy

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I agree Moggy, It certainly hit home with me. I would say it’s a brilliant piece of advertising.But as usual, that’s just my opinion.:)
Jim.
Lincoln .7

A bit dramatic for an ad if you ask me…

As an ad man that is a concept I find hard to grasp. The more impact an ad has the more likely it is to achieve its aims.

I just thought it was an interesting comment on a sad society that bans little chocolate eggs to protect children but can’t bring itself to address more serious threats.

Moggy

Unless that AR is fully automatic, it is not an assault weapon.

A bit dramatic for an ad if you ask me…

As the Ad states, it’s been banned, so one may assume it is a fully automatic, 🙂

Jim.
Lincoln .7

“Right, that’s the rest of the Class sorted, Now, where is that Bl&&dy Headmaster?.:D

The things they teach kids these days!!
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Unless that AR is fully automatic, it is not an assault weapon.

A bit dramatic for an ad if you ask me…

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Even Pravda (as it is known here) reported the news, which is unusual as they are about as left wing as it gets:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

RpR.
I understand, that is the Law in the States, that every gun carried by Airlines, MUST be able to be seen via Xray or metal detectors, prior to boarding.The newly developed handgun, 3D generated, cannot, as I understand.
The new weapon, a handgun, very well appropriately called the “Liberator”, and which anyone can download the plans to make one for FREE, is going to throw the Airlines into a wobbly. The only problem I see, is that the ammunition may set the Checking machines off as it passes through the checkhout.
I wonder if it would be possible to make the casings, and the projectile out of a similar material?.
Should they be banned before it may go into full production, or will it be yet another infringement of the 2nd?.and TSHTF yet again.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Plastic bullets exist, but they are for shock effect, not penetration.
Caseless ammo has been dead on arrival ever time tried.
The weapon could be put on an NFA list, same as machine guns and silencers, as it has zero sporting value.
I do not think a court challenge to remove it would be pressed as there would be no value to any one spending the money to do it.

Rick, My Son-In-Law builds F1 racing car bodies for a living, using Carbon Fibre and Kevlar. Having spoken to him, re the firing pin, he stated the Tests for the bodies he builds for the F1 cars is very, very stringent, and his opinion, (NOT mine), is that he believes it would work.
There are some out there, who would only “Need” the use of this weapon,just once, Guess you know what I mean.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I’m very familiar with kevlar fabrication, the issue is that the firing pin needs to be fairly *pointy*. I don’t think one made from kevlar would last very long… assuming one could be made to work in the first place.

Rick, Re the firing pin, no doubt something like Kevlar would do the trick. It’s pretty hard, if it’s been placed in an autoclave?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Could it be that ‘smart policing and a willingness to award serious jail time to violent offenders’ rather than an ‘armed American populace’ is what actually caused the overall drop in gun-crime?

How much jail time they are sentenced to is irrelevant, most perps will only do about 10% of their time… Around here it’s not at all unusual for people who get sentenced to 18 months to do about a fortnight.

As for the issue with the printed gun.. it’s a non-starter at this point because it used a nail as a firing pin… which shows up on metal detectors…

Warren, Where there is a will, there is a way.:) I suppose those who do own a 3D printer will no doubt be selling the plans, for a price to anyone who wants to have a go at making one.
I, like Rick, turned a small brass cannon out of brass when I was an apprentice, I used the powder from a firework, and the touch hole, which was countersunk, had a length of fuse, from one of the old “JetX” model aircraft engines.
We put a ball bearing in it, and fired it, the cannon, was held in a vice when fired, so as you rightly say, with the right tools, one can make your own weapon, although it would never get past any Proofing rules and regs, and you could, here in GB get done for owning a Prohibited weapon.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

The new weapon, a handgun, very well appropriately called the “Liberator”, and which anyone can download the plans to make one for FREE…

The 3D printing machine cost several thousand pounds (even second-hand) so it is hardly ‘free’!

Those in the media (as usual) clearly know a lot more about ‘downloading from the internet’ that they do about basic machine-shop practice!

Any half-competent machinist could make a viable weapon (even out of plastic) with a standard lathe and milling-machine and the plans for such weapons are easy to obtain.

The media ‘hysteria’ here is about the 3D printing of guns…

…or rather their lack of understanding that this actually has changed nothing.