I visited an old school chum last week. He was having a bit of a clear out. He long forsook our joint love of old military aircraft for the delights of model railways but the upside of this was that he presented me with a rather sizable ‘wad’ of old prints and negatives, surplus to his requirements.
Here attached are an initial batch of six prints that looked particularly interesting. All 2.25sq contact prints, all on identical Ilford paper, all with a characteristic three degree lean to the right and now corrected. My guess is that they were taken by the same photographer on the same roll of film and most probably by a BOAC crewman some time around 1955.
So who are the specialists out there who can recognise these machines, serials, registrations and location?
Discuss.
Mark
Photos from the Trevor Tew Collection.
By: gdenton - 31st January 2006 at 06:44
N68174
Hi Mk12,
The more I look at the Goose it appears to be a JRF-5 notice the footbal on top of the rear fusl. also it still has the 985s and haml. Stander prop. also behind the Tigercat is a Stearman which appears to being modfided for Crop Dusting it has the big engine mod and their is a duster bin.
So do you have any more 😀
RER
If that is 68174 it was lost in the tidal wave in Kodiak Alaska March 27th 1964. They couldn’t get it out of the hangar before the wave came in
By: alvin5182 - 4th July 2005 at 01:42
Gents:
Without going too far “into the books”, the Lanc is an RCAF “Ryan Firebee” drone controller.
Al Davis
By: Jules Horowitz - 3rd July 2005 at 16:36
Can anyone make an avitar for me if I send a picture. I don’t know how to do it.
By: crazymainer - 29th June 2005 at 03:56
Hey Mk12
How about any new photos 😀
Cheers
RER
By: Mark12 - 23rd June 2005 at 23:02
The Yahoo Groups on Grumman Geese(?!) would be worth a try, Mark – there’s some real Grumman authorities use that group.
JDK,
I sent the image to ‘Mr Grumman Goose’ yesterday. No response as yet.
Mark
By: JDK - 23rd June 2005 at 15:17
The Yahoo Groups on Grumman Geese(?!) would be worth a try, Mark – there’s some real Grumman authorities use that group.
By: Mark12 - 23rd June 2005 at 14:54
Easy/Difficult
Oh well, didnt do too bad. LA226 came to mind, but I could remember its serial at the time! TE476 could have been any of about a dozen…!
Bruce
..exactly. It is a balance between too easy and too difficult, but hopefully interesting none the less. 🙂
Mark
By: Bruce - 23rd June 2005 at 14:44
Oh well, didnt do too bad. LA226 came to mind, but I could remember its serial at the time! TE476 could have been any of about a dozen…!
Bruce
By: Mark12 - 23rd June 2005 at 14:33
…we have a line up of aircraft at RAF Henlow at the back end of 1967, so DHfan and Old Eagle well spotted.
Bruce is nearly right with his mark types. The first aircraft in line is not a Mk. XVI, but to be fair it is only a wing.
So no ‘MikeJ’ rushing in with the serial numbers then? Is he away?
Any suggestions to serials? A little more time?
Mark
As this one drops to page three with no MikeJ input, to conclude:-
Aircraft in process selection for the BoB film at RAF Henlow – 1967, the line up left to right.
Mk V EP120, now flying with TFC. Used in film.
Mk XVI TE476, now flying/resting with Kermit Weeks. Used in film.
Mk XIX PM651, now RAFMus Store. Used in film.
Mk 21 LA198, now static display, Scotland. Used in film.
Mk 21 LA226, now RAFMus Store. Not used in film.
Mk XIX PS915, now flying with BBMF Coningsby. Used in film.
Mark
By: Mark12 - 21st June 2005 at 20:22
I had to go for the obvious ones first!
In that case, the XIX’s must be PM651 – the first one, and PS915 at the end.
Have I worked on the XVI? (trying to narrow it down!!)
Bruce
Bruce,
Yes, yes & no.
Mark
By: Bruce - 21st June 2005 at 20:17
I had to go for the obvious ones first!
In that case, the XIX’s must be PM651 – the first one, and PS915 at the end.
Have I worked on the XVI? (trying to narrow it down!!)
Bruce
By: Mark12 - 21st June 2005 at 18:28
Two out of six.
OK, if the first one isnt a XVI then I would guess on it being a V.
My guess then:
EP120, SL674, PS853, PM631 and the 2 20 series a/c – errrm, LA198, and PK624?Bruce
Yup. The first wing is EP120 then it goes down hill. 🙂
LA198 is one of the 20 series.
Mark
By: Eddie - 21st June 2005 at 17:27
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38registry/p38-4427205.html
How’s that fit? CF-JJA
By: Dan Johnson - 21st June 2005 at 17:12
Yep, I’m with Eddie. The first photo has the deeper chin cowlings of a J or L model.
Dan
By: Eddie - 21st June 2005 at 16:31
Look at the cowling again these are from a E model
Hi Rob,
I beg to differ – those look like late P-38 cowlings to me. The early P-38 cowlings don’t have the deep “chin” rads, like the late ones.
This is what a P38E looks like – much sleeker.
(Image borrowed from the USAF!)
By: Bruce - 21st June 2005 at 16:09
OK, if the first one isnt a XVI then I would guess on it being a V.
My guess then:
EP120, SL674, PS853, PM631 and the 2 20 series a/c – errrm, LA198, and PK624?
Bruce
By: stewart1a - 21st June 2005 at 16:08
XIV?
By: Mark12 - 21st June 2005 at 16:00
As to the Spitfires…,
…we have a line up of aircraft at RAF Henlow at the back end of 1967, so DHfan and Old Eagle well spotted.
Bruce is nearly right with his mark types. The first aircraft in line is not a Mk. XVI, but to be fair it is only a wing.
So no ‘MikeJ’ rushing in with the serial numbers then? Is he away?
Any suggestions to serials? A little more time?
Mark
By: Swiss Mustangs - 21st June 2005 at 15:45
This was on ebay a few months ago (didn’t win this negative) – could also be the one (Aero Service Corp.) …
Martin
By: Mark12 - 21st June 2005 at 15:05
P-38
Hi Dan,
Look at the cowling again these are from a E model and the nose package is not the type Hurd used, they had a more rounded package.
Maybe Mk12 can give us the writing on the tail so we can cross match it.
Cheers
RER
RER & Dan,
At first, under the glass, it looked like there was just a small ’25’ on the fin. Further study showed vertical letters on the rudder in light contrast ‘JJA’. There is more there and I would speculate it actually reads ‘CF-JJA’.
How does that fit in the time frame?
Mark
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