What would the world be like now ???

Even Washing Up liquid was a bi-product of a NASA requirement (For something I can’t remember!)

Clean dishes?

Moggy

Is there any technology that didn’t start its life without a Military (And Space exploration) need? BTW I know Space exploration was entirely a military need at first.
I can’t immediately think of one. Even Washing Up liquid was a bi-product of a NASA requirement (For something I can’t remember!)

As for the cultural Britain if no WW1 or 2. It would be more cultural. Let’s assume we were great pals from 1900 onwards. The border control would have gone away by what…1940 say?

Almost but not quite, Kev! 😀

…….and you’ve almost insulted him……

Paul.

Are you by any chance implying that I’m almost an ****? 😀

Regards,

kev35

i also have dissabillitys with arms and fingers so use minimal keys !!

Learning to spell ‘disabilities’ would have saved you a keystoke. It’s a start anyway.

But thank you for the lecture on English. It’s easy now to see how you came in the top 2% in your ‘college’ class

Moggy

i also have dissabillitys with arms and fingers so use minimal keys !!

That’s why you use multiple exclamation and question marks?

Come on, everyone on this forum is wise enough to know disabilities affect people and I don’t think you’ll find a single person here who won’t make allowances for that, but you’re not helping yourself. You’ve accused Kev of “belittling” you (which I can’t see him doing anywhere) and you’ve almost insulted him for expressing his extremely well educated and entirely appropriate opinion. That being the case don’t you think it’s somewhat ironic that you imply he has no people skills when the person lacking people skills appears to be you?

Anyway, regardless of people skills in the 5 years I’ve been on this forum I’ve seen Kev talk of this subject many, many times and his knowledge of it is nothing short of incredible. Whether you agree or not that kind of knowledge should be respected, not ignored.

It could be said that without WWII there wouldn’t have necessarily been the cold war between East & West, which fuelled a rush in technology to be always one or more step ahead.

WWII started a chain reaction (in more ways than one 😉 ) some of it wasn’t all bad.

go ahead & flame, the Dr is fireproof :p

I thought it might be interesting to get the opinion/thoughts of a “young” person so here goes …

I think that if the wars didn’t happen, we wouln’t have teenagers my age or younger being pregnant, because people will still have jobs to fill.

I think that kids wouldn’t be looking for the use of drugs and alcohol to be a thing to “settle” this picture of oh so “woe is me” kinda thing …

I think that children would be educated a lot better and actually learn to be respectful because I think it’s terrible how rude I see some kids in shops when with their parents or having no ettiquette when eating at a table.

interesting thaughts , but alas not necessarily true there would have been a lot of young males not killed
that in turn may have presented a larger population than the baby boom

drugs were actualy used in ww2 amphetamines were widely used by bomber crews for long night missions

and L.S.D. was first tested on G.I.’s at about the korea or vietnam era

can’t deny about how some kids are although you cannot tar them all with the same brush

i am of the older generation and find you reap what you sow

i am polite and actualy talk to them as humans and 99% of the time i get the same mutual respect back

Just out of interest.

If this is true, why do you now choose to ignore the simplest rules of English grammar, particularly those relating to the use of capital letters and punctuation?

Moggy

plain and simple i am here for liesure activitys and relaxing

if i wished to have perfect english i would frequent an english apreciation forum

but to that ends what is english ??? it is merely a *******ised language

because if you were talking / writing true english it would be celtic

english is mainly developed from german by invaders from the angle and saxony regions of germany anglo saxons ( so english is mostly a german derived language !! ) with some spatterings of latin

but then there are spatterings of latin in celtic languages

finestra for window appears in welsh as well as italian so essentialy from the latin fennestra

and i can also add whilst people think they are smart crittiscising

i also have dissabillitys with arms and fingers so use minimal keys !!

Interesting thread. Many developments were undoubtedly triggered by the two world wars, but without those conflicts would the scientist and industrialists of the day been working on other things, or maybe come at the same things from a different direction? What would Werner Von Braun have been doing if there were no war; looking at putting sattellites into orbit? And if Frank Whittle found no interest in his jets for the RAF, might he have gone to the US and talked Douglas or Lockheed into an early jet airliner? And how about all the brilliant minds committed to things like the Battle of the Atlantic, breaking the Enigma code, etc; what would they have been doing from 1939 to 1945? In short, maybe the loss of impetus from the “No War” scenario might have been counterbalanced by freeing science and industry to pursue other things? (Don’t claim to be an expert in these things, so don’t shoot me down in flames if I’ve got anything wrong, eh?)

I would guess computing would still be in the dark ages without war to ‘push’ it up there. With that, I guess the internet would not have happened yet.

We would probably still be looking up at an unconquered moon today.

Jet airliners would probably be ‘new fangled’ toys and Concord just a black and white artist impression.

The British Empire would still be around.:rolleyes:

London, Plymouth, Exeter, Coventry, Dresden, Hamburg, etc, would be even more difficult to navigate your way round without a (not yet invented) Sat/nav.

No Teflon on your frying pan.

The Ford Anglia – cutting edge, colour TV just coming in , Jeremy Clarkson on fourth gear, Women in the home whilst the men go to work, Steam trains still running(?),

No nuclear weapons.

the list is endless…….

I thought it might be interesting to get the opinion/thoughts of a “young” person so here goes …

I think that if the wars didn’t happen, we wouln’t have teenagers my age or younger being pregnant, because people will still have jobs to fill.

I think that kids wouldn’t be looking for the use of drugs and alcohol to be a thing to “settle” this picture of oh so “woe is me” kinda thing …

I think that children would be educated a lot better and actually learn to be respectful because I think it’s terrible how rude I see some kids in shops when with their parents or having no ettiquette when eating at a table.

@ GA. The point I was making is that we live in an overcrowded world fast using up its resources. Several millions more breeding pairs would not have helped the situation any.

Or are you pointing out that the flu would have claimed more lives if there had been more available victims?

That’s more or less it.

Bear in mind that, for some reason still unknown, the mortality rate was highest among young adults.

Bumblebee.

It is an interesting point that you made about two million women unable to marry and have children due to the men lost in the Great War. It has surprised me, whilst looking at individual casualties (and it’s probably over a thousand now if not more) the number of times the CWGC details list the casualty, Private Fred Bloggs, 2nd Battalion Royal Umpshires, son of Mr and Mrs Bloggs, husband of Alice Jones. It seems, and I’ve no way of scientifically proving this, that many returning unmarried soldiers went on to marry the widows of those killed. Perhaps it’s a local thing. It might be interesting to compare casualties on War Memorials like that in my industrial town with others of a similar size and those of more rural locales.

Regards,

kev35

@ GA. The point I was making is that we live in an overcrowded world fast using up its resources. Several millions more breeding pairs would not have helped the situation any.

Or are you pointing out that the flu would have claimed more lives if there had been more available victims?

@ BB Individual tragedies certainly, but in the great scheme of thing they are of no consequence

Moggy

The Spanish Flu Pandemic had far more of an impact on the world’s population than World War One did, Rob.

I don’t imagine that those two million women who lived their lives without the comfort of a husband or children saw it that way.
I should have said,that two million was in this country alone,I don’t know the figure worldwide.

… all those potential lives that might have been beneficial to humanity were wasted

More humans is something the world needs like a hole-in-the-head 🙂

Moggy

The political and diplomatic tensions that existed between the European Powers at the start of the 20th century made armed conflict among them truly only a matter of time.

The web of formal alliances that bound them one to another also dictated that any such conflict would rapidly and inevitably grow to encompass the entire continent – and beyond.

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was only the spark that lit the kindling.

The resulting bonfire had been well-stacked for decades.

The slaughter of men in the Great War meant that an estimated two million women were unable to marry and have children,so all those potential lives that might have been beneficial to humanity were wasted.
As for the Baby Boomers,speaking as one myself my parents would never have met if they hadn’t been in the RAF/WAAF,so I wouldn’t be here to fritter away my twilight years on my computer.