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Wrong on so many levels

I don’t know what to say about this one. I can’t be flippant, I can’t be sad or outraged. Is this what so called humanity looks like and has come to?

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3792109/Brother-and-sister-in-lift-sex.html

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 19:19

Regrettably, I suspect it is still appropriate!

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By: John Green - 8th May 2013 at 19:16

In the light of the daily media revelations concerning the murky activities of this or that ‘celebrity, …”public’s insatiable desire..” is a phrase to be avoided !

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 15:35

John – Well I assumed that but since most aviation enthusiasts would not admit to “insatiable desire” it hardly being an appropriate phrase to describe enthusiasm, I thought the point had been missed.

Thanks for the thought, but please don’t worry about me, – I’m fine.:)

paul – thanks for the clarification. Then in those cases double standards certainly apply to anyone who does so, I agree. Personally I steer well clear and have been upbraided for criticising information published here from those sources.

Without tabloids would much of value be lost. I think it was The Telegraph which spearheaded the Vulcan campaign.

There is an “insatiable” market for what the tabloids offer and thankfully here we do not have to read them as we have so much choice, in print and on-line.

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By: paul178 - 8th May 2013 at 15:34

Sorry, I don’t understand your point. What have those things to do with the items listed previously?

My point is people get sniffy about the tabloids but are not above reading them and quoting them on aircraft matters,such as the name of a pilot who had just died before it was released officially yet will decry them for a story on other matters.

Without Newspapers there probably be no spark of interest in Vulcan to the sky or the Dornier in the channel(and certainly less funds)

Certainly there is the sensational element but without it there would be no readership and no newspapers.

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By: John Green - 8th May 2013 at 15:25

Paul’s comment was sardonic but meant ‘two sides of the same coin’.

Charlie, sometimes you worry me !

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 15:06

Sorry, I don’t understand your point. What have those things to do with the items listed previously?

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By: paul178 - 8th May 2013 at 15:03

” public’s insatiable desire ” So we are above that with the need to know the in’s and outs of the latest fatal air crash,who’se to blame buried aircraft and the like?(I wont bother you with the rest of the list)

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 14:43

Indeed – as I said, was it ever thus? The rags have been rags for years, pandering to the public’s, or a significant part of the public’s insatiable desire for exactly what you describe in your post. But it doesn’t, shouldn’t surprise us, should it?

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By: trumper - 8th May 2013 at 14:38

It’s how news [and i use that word as it’s loosest meaning] papers get the interest to sell them.Pure newspapers wouldn’t sell ,crappy tabloids bow down to the lowest common denominator which is basically,****,sex,celebrity,sports,oh and sex between them all.

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 13:39

Was it ever thus?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 8th May 2013 at 13:34

Why is this even in the paper? A right-to-know story?

Of course not – just another case of ghoulish voyeurism for tabloid readers.

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By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 10:44

Don’t worry, we won’t – you saved us the trouble!;)

It has been my misfortune to visit a handful of isolated communities, in the past, where considerable in-breeding has taken place and it does seem to result in both physical and mental, impairment – more the latter I would say. But I am sure there have been detailed anthropological studies published over the years.

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By: John Green - 8th May 2013 at 10:36

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Maybe not as low as we’d like to believe. First cousin marriage and the children born therein is a permitted degree. There is concern over the number of impaired children born as a consequence. This would indicate that Nature doesn’t approve and we should think again.

I’m told that first cousin marriage features strongly in the lifestyles of certain ethnic minorities. This occured within my own family and resulted in one normal cousin and one handicapped.

Please don’t write that this explains a lot !

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By: Deskpilot - 8th May 2013 at 04:07

Hmmmm, lot’s of finger pointing and biased opinions posted here. Now I not saying that what these youngster’s did is right BUT, what do we know of their back ground. The papers quote the mother as being horrified etc but, what mother wouldn’t, even if she was lying through her teeth to protect herself. It might be the case that she abused both kids all their miserable lives and they turned to each other for love and support. It’s happened before and it’ll happen again. As for getting pregnant, they might have used condoms, no one bothers to mention it one way or another. Don’t make statements unless you know all the facts, please.
BTW, to judge some one on the way they look is contemptible. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. We can’t all be blessed with good looks, same as we can’t all have the perfect upbringing.

PS as the title suggests, this thread and it’s context is also ‘wrong on so many levels’

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By: trumper - 7th May 2013 at 18:21

It was tongue in cheek Kev 🙂 ,i think alot of these chavs etc have major problems in how to behave and self discipline,maybe they made this a life choice which in a way is even more worrying 🙁 .

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By: kev35 - 7th May 2013 at 16:54

Edgar is spot on with his reasoning for the entry on the register.

trumper, I think your last needs some clarification. I think that, in the main, chavdom and scrotery are lifestyle choices rather than a result of genetic defects stemming from incestuous relationships. There’s bound to be some research out there somewhere which would reveal how many genetic defects occur as a result of incest. I suspect the reported incidences would be very low.

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By: trumper - 7th May 2013 at 16:33

Inbreeding can cause defects in offspring .Actually this could explain alot of the chavs and scrotes there are wandering around.

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By: Edgar Brooks - 7th May 2013 at 14:50

While it is not an activity I would partake of myself why is it illegal?.

Because, should the unthinkable happen, and a child result, there’s every likelihood of mental impairment, and all that entails.
I suspect that his addition to the sex offenders’ register was due to the feeling that, if he can’t exercise restraint with his own sister, he’s hardly likely to be able to manage with any other female, of any age.

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By: charliehunt - 7th May 2013 at 13:14

Well said, that man!! The money wasted by the BBC in this way is irresponsible. I am not concerned about other broadcasters since I do not pay for them. I would like to think that Tony Hall will examine this but as an ex-newsroom man, I rather doubt it.

Back to the thread – my only dispute with those seeking education over punishment is that I see both being appropriate.

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By: TonyT - 7th May 2013 at 13:02

Neil, it’s like any story, I still cannot figure why any story on the Government requires someone standing in front of the Houses of Parliament, same goes for any other story, film crews camped outside ones house just stresses the people that may have lost a loved one etc…. It could all be done from a studio. Why have someone in Syria with a hill in the background bleating on about stuff you cannot see in the image, you could just as easily film it elsewhere.

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