mattWooaw thanks, I never even expected to find a picture of that… Although it’s not a good missile for a submarine, there the supports can’t move away when the missile ignites…
This type of launch system has been thought about by other navies, and some countries did consider it but due (uknown for me) problems they might encounter they never bothered. For India its a way to have a nuclear deterent in each section of the forces. maybe when it becomes more advanced they will go the USN/RN etc etc way. till then cheap and cheerful it is.
matt:O
LM selling F-18’s to India! WOW
That is excellent.
wondering what Boeing has to say about it.
mattSrbin, depends on the GPS systems used, the number of signals etc, and if they can get all the PSK’s iirc.. also depends on luck as GPS jammers arent anything new.
mattBlackcat, remember that if the launcher can not fit onto the rail bogies for transportation its pretty much going to be a major headache, maybe they chose the smaller wheelbase so they wouldnt need to replace bogies and tracks to acomadate transportation of the Brahmos, also remember that it is being turned into a LACM and the use of the tatras’ will allow the army to place the brahmos if needed in forward positions.
mattMatt,
Point 1 – Its great to see you back onboard here mate.
Point 2 – I wasnt clear in what I wrote. I meant that I agree with you that it really does look like the Heath Government ran a ‘very-British’ ethnic cleansing campaign and that is absolutely disgusting. All I took issue with was the slightly selective nature of the Pilger report that was initially posted.
Thanks mate 🙂 hope you have been keeping welll.
I am not really sure about his report, a lot sounds like a crusader but a lot sounds honest. I am ready to sit on the report to be honest as i have not experienced or posses any primary sources to prove the events true or false.
mattSixth Indo-US joint naval exercises Add to Clippings
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 04, 2004 01:51:49 AM ]
NEW DELHI: The Indian Navy will for the first time display its capability with the long-range maritime and submarine hunter aircraft P3C Orions in the joint exercise being planned with the US Navy off the Goa coast beginning Monday.
In the sixth of the Indo-US series of ”Malabar Exercises”, the frontline Indian anti-submarine warfare ships will match their skills with the US Pacific Fleet’s Los Angeles class nuclear submarine as well as Ticonderoga missile cruiser and Oliver Hazard Perry class guided-missile frigate. New Delhi and Washington are negotiating for the Indian Navy acquiring 10 P3C Orions on a government-to-government sale to augment its depleted maritime capabilities.
For the week-long exercises with its accent on anti-submarine warfare, the Indian Navy is fielding one Delhi class guided missile destroyer, one Brahmaputra class guided missile frigate, the German acquired HDW Shishumar class submarine and Sea Harrier jump jet fighters operating from Goa land bases.
Besides the anti-submarine warfare, the two navies would also undertake manoeuvre on sea-control missions, fleet air defence, surface firings and maritime interdiction operations.
Indian naval warships have been, for the last two years, conducting joint manoeuvre with nuclear-powered submarines from the US and French navies. The Indian Navy had acquired on lease from the then USSR a Chakra class nuclear submarine in the late 1980s.
It had recently sought to revive this capability by getting on long lease two Russian Akula class nuclear submarines. The Navy is also trying to design and build an indigenous nuclear submarine.
mattAmazing how accurate those ethnic cleansing jibes seem to the mark isnt it?. 😡
I distrust the Pilger article to an extent though as it seems to accentuate the fact that the islanders just got ‘dumped on the docks’ in Mauritius without mentioning the fact that the UK Govt of the day did pay the Mauritius Govt £3million (fair old sum back then) towards the cost of resettling the evictee’s!. Not that that kind of compensation for dragging them off their land in such a fashion makes it any better of course, but, for the article not to reflect the fact does damage Pilgers credibility for me.
Then again though seeings as the UK Gov got an £11mill discount on the Polaris system out of the Diego Garcia deal it was bloody well obliged to offer some kind of compensation!
Sorry mate not ment as a jibe/ Low blow/ Flame bait etc not to the servicemen or and women and anyone else in the UK except the people who are making the dicisions and like i said it irks me to a large extent. ( maybe its a manisfestation of my dislike for his domestic policies towards students and his contempt of Ordinary British Citizen).
mattLOL , This is one of the things that irked me majorly as i saw Bush and Blair anounce how they would champion “freedom” , and it made me sick to my stomach….. Certain parts of Platos’ republic on Justice and Just men came into my mind then.
mattEvery one knows that Diego Garcia had in habitants! I for the life of me do not see why they dont take Bush and Blaire into the Hague on the charges of ETHNIC CLEANSING! (oki people havent died but they have been displaced and a large percentage has been displaced )
matttaiwan to shanghai ? :O pretty long range that!
mattbring back the F-14 super tomcat!
mattkaraj or eshafan have a AD right next door i think.
mattThe flight test prg might not be based on a linear timescale, the flight times might increase as confidence goes up and the testing gathers pace..
mattTejas pilot flies supersonic 25 timesAdd to Clippings
PTI[ FRIDAY, AUGUST 06, 2004 08:56:37 PM ]
BANGALORE: Tejas, the home grown Light Combat Aircraft, has flown for over 150 hours including 60 supersonic sorties in its development and test phase.
Tejas, being developed by the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), a DRDO outfit here, has completed 255 flights so far, an ADA statement said here on Friday.
Test pilot Sqd Ldr Suneet Krishna, who piloted the maiden flight of the first Prototype Vehicle (PV-1) of Tejas last November, has broken the speed barrier 25 times.
Krishna, who joined the National Flight Testing Centre of ADA in April 2002, has helped the Tejas Design Team in all important decisions in expansion of flight envelope and pilot vehicle interface, it said.
Tejas, which first flew in January 2001, has to fly for over 1,500 hours in five test aircraft to undergo initial certification and about 2,500 hours for full certification, expected by 2007.
Powered by an American GE-404 engine, Tejas is a light weight, delta-winged, fly-by-wire, multi-role supersonic fighter being developed to replace the ageing MiG fleet of the IAF from early next decade.
Two technology demonstrators and one prototype vehicle (PV) have flown so far, and ADA scientists are building the Prototype Vehicle-2 (PV-2), the production standard of the aircraft to fly by 2005.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-805597,curpg-2.cms
matthttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3531956.stm
N Korea missiles ‘could reach US’
TV footage of a previous North Korean missile test
N Korea has already proved it has missiles, by publicly testing them
North Korea is in the process of developing a new missile system for ships or submarines, according to a report in Jane’s Defence Weekly.
Such a system could “fundamentally alter the missile threat” posed by Pyongyang, as it would then be able to target the entire US, the report says.
A companion land-based missile is thought to have been developed already.
The systems are based on the now decommissioned Soviet R-27 submarine-launched ballistic missile.
The report, published in the authoritative Jane’s Defence Weekly, says the land-based system has an estimated range of 2,500km to 4,000km (1,500 miles to 2,500 miles) while the sea-based system is thought to be capable of hitting a target more than 2,500km away.
Map shows range of Taepodong 1 missile, flown over Japan in 1998. Range 1,500-2,000 km, payload: 1,000 kg
Evidence that North Korea preparing flight test of Taepodong 2. Range up to 8,000 km (could reach western US)
Evidence from Jane’s Defence of a pair of new ballistic missiles – one sea-based
Other missiles: Scud-B: Range 300 km, payload 1,000 kg
Scud-C: Range 500 km, payload 7600-800 kg
Scud-D (Nodong): Range 1,000-1,300 km, payload: 700-1,000 kg
“These new land and sea-based systems appreciably expand the ballistic missile threat presented by the DPRK [North Korea],” the report said.
But the most significant part of the new developments appears to be the sea-based missile, as it could be transported almost anywhere in the world by submarine or ship.
Such a system “could finally provide [the North Korean] leadership with something that it has long sought to obtain – the ability to directly threaten the continental US,” the report warns.
Ian Kemp, the news editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly, said only five other countries have this capability: the declared nuclear powers of the US, the UK, France, China and Russia.
He told BBC News Online that North Korea was “almost certainly” developing the missile with the intention of adding nuclear warheads.
Pyongyang could also be intending to sell its new missiles to another country, although according to Jane’s, there is no evidence that any attempt has been made so far.
Iran would appear the ideal customer, the Jane’s report says, “given its requirement for a system capable of striking Israel from the security of its own territory”.
A spokeswoman for the US state department declined to comment specifically on the apparent new threat.
Darla Jordan told BBC News Online simply: “The US will continue to work closely with other like-minded countries to address North Korea’s nuclear efforts.”
Mystery regime
Information about North Korea’s military capabilities is notoriously sketchy, given the ultra-secretive nature of its communist regime.
The US and North Korea remain deadlocked over Pyongyang’s controversial nuclear programme, and the isolated Stalinist nation has long been seen as a threat to regional security.
North Korea has already proved it owns short-range missiles such as the Taepodong 1, which is capable of reaching a target up to 2,000km away.
A Taepodong 1 was fired over Japanese territory in 1998, landing in the Pacific Ocean and causing much alarm in Tokyo.
Correspondents say there is mounting evidence that Pyongyang has also been working on a missile with a much longer range, the Taepodong 2, which is thought to be capable of reaching targets 8,000km away, such as Hawaii or Alaska.
According to Mr Kemp, there is no evidence that the advent of the new missiles will affect the completion of the Taepodong 2.
The two systems could be complementary, he said.
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