Wow an X-45 nice call Matt, but I think you posted it in the wrong thread mate 😉
Hi, Ja did I ? erm oki so where do you think it should be posted? any advice?
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how did this thread get to 6 pages? Indian, Sameer, Xan please back off all your doing is giving this thread life when it should have been buried!
And if you want to post then post about the Indian Mig-31’s
does any 1 know how to remove the posts
Click edit on the post you want to delete and then select the delete radio button ( i think its radio button anyways.)
India Invited to Join Russia-US civil aircraft project
(Source: Press Trust of India; issued June 17, 2004)
BANGALORE — An aircraft consortium, led by Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau and America’s Boeing Corporation, has asked India to join its project to build a family of regional jet transport aircraft for civilian use.
“They are very keen that we (India) become a risk-sharing partner,” Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd Chairman N R Mohanty told reporters on the sidelines of SCALE 2004 conference on supply chain and logistics management here today.
He said the Russian government has committed to buy about 60 civil aircraft and added that the manufacturers will also explore the global market for these airplanes.
The Seattle-based Boeing and Sukhoi Design Bureau will produce the air-frame and the engine will be jointly built by European aero engine manufacturer Snecma and Russia’s Lyulka Saturn for the family of 60, 75 and 95 seater aircraft, with the first plane expected to take off by 2007-08.
The consortium would compete with Brazil’s Embraer firm, in which Snecma has an equity stake.
Mohanty said India has not finalized plans to join the consortium, but added HAL could provide crucial parts of engines and aircraft structure for the venture.
“It is a good opportunity to go global. If we become part of this type of consortium, our image will go up, capability and infrastructure will increase,” he said.
Mohanty said the profit would be shared between the companies based on the size of investment they make.
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maybe the PAK-FA would be export only ? Similar to what the Russians tried to do by buying one Jet trainer and trying to export to India another jet trainer so that as many companys as possible remain funded
It depends on who gets operationalize its jets. FC-1 with SD-10 should be
better than Gripen with R-Darter.
WHAT!!!!!
The third would be of great use! a 500 Kph super heavy weight missile boat!
Current News
Weekly Progress Report – LCA Project (15-06-04)
Flight Test Phase of Tejas is in Progress.
233 flight tests(138 Hrs : 36 Mins flight duration) have been successfully completed.
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Weekly Progress Report – LCA Project (27-05-04)
Flight Test Phase of Tejas is in Progress.
Formation Flight with 03 aircraft [Tejas (TD1, TD2 & PV1)]] has been demonstrated.
As on date, 224 flight tests (135 Hrs flight duration) have been successfully completed.
To mark the technology day all three Tejas aircrafts (TD1,TD2 & PV1) flew in a delta formation. (11-May-2004)
LCA-Tejas has completed 219 flights.
well i kept this here only for the sake of keeping a record funny how the times of india has changed its tune on the migs and bisons..
Aging IAF shoots down USAF top guns
CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, JUNE 18, 2004 11:44:04 PM ]
WASHINGTON: Did the Indian Air Force really outperform American pilots and planes during recent India-US air combat exercises or is the USAF using the encounter to pitch for new generation fighter jets?
That’s the question buzzing around in strategic circles after a recent article in a limited access US Air Force magazine detailing the “surprising sophistication of Indian fighter aircraft and skill of Indian pilots” demonstrated at the Cope India air combat exercise at Gwalior in February this year.
The exercise, in which US F-15Cs were said to have been defeated more than 90 per cent of the time in direct combat exercises against the IAF, “is causing US Air Force officials to re-evaluate the way the service trains its fighter pilots while bolstering the case for buying the F/A-22 as a way to ensure continued air dominance for the United States,” a June 2 article in the magazine Inside the Air Force reported.
The magazine quoted US officials who participated in the exercise as saying it should “provide a reality check for those who had assumed unquestioned US air superiority.”
On the face of it, the performance of the IAF, with its oft-reported air crashes in an aging, non-American fleet, might seem surprising. But US officials told the magazine that the Indians were much better than they had bargained for.
“What happened to us was it looks like our red air training might not be as good because the adversaries are better than we thought,” the article quoted Col. Mike Snodgrass, commander of the 3rd Wing at Elmendorf Air Force Base, as saying. “And in the case of the Indian Air Force both their training and some of their equipment was better than we anticipated.”
“Red air” refers to the way the US Air Force simulates enemy capability in air combat training. US officials emphasised that such simulation deliberately handicap US planes and pilots against the enemy because the service has assumed for years that its fighters are more capable than enemy aircraft.
In Cope Thunder, four F-15Cs were pitted against 10 or 12 of same model Indian fighters such as the Mirage 2000, MIG-27 and MIG-29s in offensive and defensive counter air scenarios. But the two most formidable IAF aircraft proved to be the MIG-21 Bison, an upgraded version of the Russian-made baseline MIG-21, and the Sukhoi SU-30K Flanker, US officials said.
“What we faced were superior numbers, and an IAF pilot who was very proficient in his aircraft and smart on tactics. That combination was tough for us to overcome,” the magazine quoted a US airman who took part in the exercise as saying.
While acknowledging the performance of their Indian colleagues, who they will meet again in another air combat exercise in Alaska next month, the US airmen also made a major pitch for the F/A-22 aircraft that the US government has been slow to embrace because of its cost and lack of a perceived threat.
“The major takeaway for the Air Force is that our prediction of needing to replace the F-15 with the F/A-22 is proving out as we get smarter and smarter about other [countries’] capabilities around the world and what technology is limited to in the F-15 airframe,” Col. Snodgrass said. “We’ve taken [the F-15] about as far as we can and it’s now time to move to the next generation.”
AH-56A Cheyenne, lost out to AH-64/Congress (plus tech problems), but still my favorite attack helicopter…
Well they are planning something like that for the Black Hawk! 😀
its a beautiful aircraft but its never really lost because well it reminds me of a Rafale
yup it was in flight as well and on Defence aero ! great newss 🙂
thats what happens everytime PAF ACM decides to make “announcements” on PAF purchases. nothing ever comes but still it gives people something to dream about.
Vikas,
you can beleive whatever you like. the facilities for HAL made MKIs are by and large ready. 2006 is the date they are supposed to fly. but delyas do happen. so if you like to be pessimistic then 2007 is not a bad date to choose. but like i said with HAL expanding you can only expect the induction of 190MKIs quicker.
about the LCA – again beleive what you like. actually you picked a rather positive article. there are plenty of articles claiming 2015 IOC. why didnt you get one of those? those will even furthur solidify your theory.
look its simple as this – 2006 IOC and 2008 FOC
this came straight from the horse’s mouth. ADA cheif excecutive and IAF ACM. so either take it or leave.
Do you mind not calling them horses? have some respeck! init!
so with India getting the Mig-31 will darth maul really feel threatened ?
on a serious note,
I love the gripen and i hope it does well on export its underated and i have been saying that for some time now, its amazing how the very people that oposed me when i said the gripen was a very advanced “little” aircraft with netcentric capabilities that would change scenarios are not agreeing.
oh well life does get stranger ..