Well the 1000 and 800 are having similar issues wither uncontained failures on A380 and 787. RR may need to think next move very carefully. Fix the large trents or work on single isle.

Any news from Boeing? I know they just announced that they think India has a market for 1200 or so craft. But to be honest the gov had said it and started work on NCA

oopps going off subject with the engine talk…

As for Boeing …

What could it pull out of its hat technically in the next say 3-4 years that could rival the A320 NEO or CSeries.

Answers on a postcard, better yet stick them below…

I am thinking still that the Flying wing powered by an Open roto engine, maybe Boeing pushes P&W or GE to work with the D-27 engine makers?

I know boeing probably need to do a lot less to beat the A320 NEO but i can dream of sitting in the flying wing whilst we still have enough oil to make flight affordable for normal people.

835 B787s on order.

574 A350s on order.

Both numbers are PRIOR to first delivery!!

Not lucrative enough? :confused:

may not be able to recoup costs who knows… they have engines for the single isle.

Engines seems to be your bag, so I wont probe anymore… However it now comes down to the next challange. They have an engine what aircraft do they prove it on?

They will be competing against PW and GE & Snecma who are going to be on the Airbus, Superjet, Comac C919, Bombardier C-series. RR possibly only have Boeing and even then boeing will most likely get 50% market share on single isle maybe (its usually always been 50-50 or there abouts) and on top of that it has to compete with two other proven engines.

With regards to Boeing itself, yes they have customers who are waiting but those customers will also be thinking about market share and competitiveness. If they find others undercutting them on similar routes in the coming future they may not be able to wait. The market may push those airlines towards more efficient/lighter aircraft.

I do take the point onboard that single isle will most likely require higher thrust engines with light airframes as most of the time is spent landing and taking off as apposed to longer distance/range aircraft which spend larger proportion of time cruising.

Amiga a lot of them have gone alone, snecma is still tied to Cfm partners but the iae partnership is definitely gone. RR does not have many vehicles left to showcase its new engine. And if market blurb us correct they have not designed and made and engine on their own for 30 odd years. Last new engine was prob the v2500.