What are the chances of us seeing a Berkut,Mig1.44 style tech demonstrator from the Chinese (just for the hype) soon ?
787 🙂
No one starts a Saudi Airforce thread and glorify them, why? Because their advanced weapons are imports. So is IAF’s.
It would matter for little in actual combat. 🙂 India’s two main weapons suppliers Israel and Russia are very reliable and will supply the IAF/IA even during wartime so I do not think China’s superiority in local manufacture will be that big a deal.
36 planes for 1.4billions… Estimate one plane cost almost USD 40million.. That is quite a bargain.
Is it J 10 B or the regular model ?
And what will happen to the IAF’s F/A-18’s if the limiters are taken off?
Nothing really. It is normal for USN to have g limited fighters (even the F 35C is g limited). The Airframe life is already compromised by carrier take off and landings and they may not want the additional stress of higher g-loads. Since IAF Super Hornets will be operating from the ground they will probably have better life even with g limit taken off.
Sustained G force, is made with more thust,
instantaneous turn rates is made by aerodynamics and airframe strength.Instantaneous turnrates is the one usually referd as the 9 G limit.
So a G-limit will not change with new engines!
You are taking me totally wrong there.
The EPE engines being offered has nothing to do with the increased G limit, neither did I imply it.
The SH is a 9G capable aircraft which is G limited for the USN through FCS that limitation will be removed for the ones offered to IAF.
The Ka-52?
Loaded weight: 9,800 kg (21,600 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 10,800 kg (23,810 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov TV3-117VK turboshafts, 1,660 kW (2,226 shp) each
For Ka-52:
Loaded weight: 10,400 kg (22,930 lb)
PerformanceMaximum speed: 390 km/h (204 knots, 242 mph) in dive
Cruise speed: 270 km/h (146 knots, 168 mph)
Range: 1,160 km (720 miles)
Combat radius: 460 km ()
Service ceiling: 5,500 m (18,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 16 m/s ()
Disc loading: 30 kg/m² (6 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.33 kW/kg (0.20 hp/lb)Ka-52 is more of a lightweighter(less armour/more fuel).. intended for scouting missions, fast, agile, packs a good punch but quite light armoured.
Sadly the twin rotors are a soft spot for enemy fire and add alot of weights too.
It would do great climbing up the mountain passages with its powerfull engines and high lift rate but..Its mission profile are not the same as Mi-28 and AH-64 Apache.
Besides, i think its gonna be pretty expensive in both procurment and maintanance..Do you agree?
Thanks
Actually according to this Article the Ka 52 uses composite armour which is really tough. As for the twin rotor being susceptible to enemy fire, don’t you think its far less susceptible than a tail rotor ?
It may well be more expensive than the Mi 28N but less than the Longbow. The only thing that worries me is the lack of a turreted gun, but that can be added.
The advertised climb rate doesn’t seem to be that bad on the Apache and moreover it has a higher ceiling than the Mi 28N. For me the competition is between the Apache and the Ka 52. Can you add the Ka 52 to the above comparison.
Why not keep the Hornets and add Gripen?
Could be ok at-least they share some engine components/weapons.
Why not go for more Sukhois?
The SU-30MKM is a potent platform, more or less equivalent to the F-15E
They should replace both the MiG-29N and the F/A-18D with SU-30MKM.
I never really understood the choice of buying only 8 F/A-18D.
It´s such a small number, not even enough for a Squadron. It really doesn´t make sense
May be because they do not need more ‘heavy’ fighters. The choice of the Sukhoi was rather strange in my opinion they could have easily gone for Super Hornet.
One give thousand reason to purchase a new fighter. new deal means more money under the table.
Actually, the MiG-29N is still a capable fighter, with only 1/4 of total flying hours spent. the minister said Malaysia need to spend RM260m (@ USD70m) a year on maintenance.
But, 4 type of fighters are too many for a small airforce such as Malaysia (MKM, F/A-18, Mig-29 and Hawk 208). Malaysia need to dispose both MiG-29 and F/A-18D and opt for a more economical fighter in term of operating cost. Gripen is highly rated within Malaysia.
They could have opted for the Super Hornet instead of the MKM and retired the MIGs. Two types of fighters (Hornet and Super Hornet) with many things in common. :confused:
There was a time when the basic web-pages were develoepd along with the HTTP protocol in the hallowed CERN experimental physics labs by Sir Tim Berners Lee.
Today, many 2nd rung web development firms offer services in web applications, content development etc. This does not amount to innovation of any kind; but it amply demonstrates the flow of knowldge from research labs to the industry.
What does that have to do with anything being discussed in here :confused:
The weaponry for the fighter jets has reached the end of its lifespan and extending the lifespan would be costly and would not be viable,” he told Parliament. Ahmad Zahid said this when replying to Datuk Abdul Rahman Dahlan (BN-Kota Belud) who wanted to know the rationale in phasing out the Russian-made MiG-29N jet fighters.
Sounds like bull to me because India is upgrading much older MIG 29s to latest standards (new engines, new radars, airframe life doubled) for $960 million (69 jets) which is by no means expensive (13 million/fighter). May be they just want more capable Sukhois in lesser numbers ?
How old are those aircraft?
1993 – 2009 16 years i guess (the first ones atleast)
Well the Rafale is merely ready and Brazil couldn’t gain much more than the licence for local production. The Gripen NG is certainly higher risk, but it isn’t ready yet and there’re still opportunities for the brazilian industry to get involved in the development process, not just in production.
With SAAB offering a similar deal to the Indians, in the unlikely scenario of it both winning the Fx-2 and MRCA tenders, how would SAAB manage to offer development to both Embarer and HAL ?
Ok thanks. It would just be interesting to know what kind of impact the new engines would make on SH performance.
True but the Super Hornet thread is now being used for F 22/F 35 discussions :confused:
I should have been more specific.. the new engines are actualy being used in ongoing Phase 2 of the competition?
I don’t think so. The performance trials were completed in India and what remain is the weapons/avionics trials that has to be conducted in the U.S. So there is no point in getting the EPE for those.