Well, that’s evolution for you. Now that passengers have had a taste of being able to fly away more often for a lot less money, I cannot see the demand for low cost flights disappearing, as some of you predict. I mean, Southwest Airlines have lasted 30+ years in the USA by doing it right and now have a fleet of over 400 Boeing 737’s to boast about. They clearly appeal to a vast amount of passengers as do low cost carriers in this, generally overpriced, country of ours. I am not a fan of all LCC’s but with the likes of EZY, for example, I have no complaints to report in about 60 or 70 flights with them.
Also, do the traditional airlines really still offer the same standard of service they used to? The last time I flew on BA, I got a sandwich on a one and a half hour flight and then on TAP LGW/LIS/LGW earlier this year on a business trip, I got a very small (but nice) filled bread roll, a minute salad and a cup of a coffee. I had no choice except coffee or tea! That is for a two and a half hour flight at 7.00am – I had no chance to get breakfast before the flight even if I had have known. Now, as this was a day return, and I fully expected the same standard of “meal” on the return sector, I made sure I had eaten before the flight home, just in case. As it turns out, I was spot on – bread roll and a tiny salad again. With frills?? Hardly!! I think Monarch’s little extras weigh out to about the same as these tiny frills offered by your choice of airline – they are just different extras. Price wins everytime on shorthaul for the majority of passengers.
I have found that you are lucky to be even able to buy a sandwich because by the time the 3 cabin staff these flights carry get to your seat row, they have often sold out.
Why don’t you take your own food on board with you? You can buy it in the airport, make it yourself at home or even eat before your flight. That way you won’t have to put up with those so-called curly sandwiches that you quite cleary wish to buy but love to complain about afterwards! :rolleyes: Jeez, it’s hardly rocket-science!
Well Danairboy, let’s hope that the BA check-in staff aren’t on strike the next time you plan to fly with them MAN/LGW/GIB. And if they do or don’t strike, but they win their pay award nonetheless, I hope your BA fares don’t get even higher to compensate. There’s no way I would be snob enough to say that “Having to pay for meals onboard is somewhat degrading” when it meant not only paying a lot more for the flight with someone else, but also having to connect at LGW. Madness in my own opinion – flying direct on a reknowned airline would do me just fine. Your pride must be much harder for you to swallow than Monarch Scheduled’s delicious meals and snacks that are available for purchase, at reasonable prices. :D. You should also bear in mind that if you are flying to Spain (for example) on a BA flight number, you could well end up on an Iberia code-share flight and STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR FOOD!!
Also, just for further info, Monarch Scheduled’s decision to charge for food on board came about after extensive on board research by way of passenger questionnaires. The majority vote was for a choice of food on board at a cost rather than the preset meal (that you might not even like!). It wasn’t a decision they took ‘just for the sake of it’. When it comes to competing with ones closest competitors, one cannot afford to be complacent. Recent passenger figures suggest we are still getting it very much right, despite direct well known low cost competition on most of our routes. Fares are comparable to those of our competitors but we still offer the free newspapers, pre-bookable seats, designated seating and in-flight entertainment which gives us that little bit more edge. The seat pitch isn’t great, granted, but it’s no worse than any other charter airline or other low cost operator who operate the same routes.
Quite right, Skymonster, I agree.
Wouldn’t you be p!ssed off if your flight was simply cancelled, EAL_King, just because the airline didn’t have the amount of passengers they wanted?
It is entirely possible that the airline’s next sector using that aircraft had a healthy load of passengers and, therefore, made this particular sector worthwhile anyway – but not that that should be a consideration for cancelling a flight either, in my opinion.
I once read that the flight between Westray and Papa Westray is scheduled to take two minutes but there is a pilot who made it into the Guinness Book of World Records when he managed to fly the sector in just 58 seconds. Bejeezus!! 😮
Tell my bank manager that!!! 🙂
They are only once a week because it is the old charter routes having a flight number change. It is not an additional flight to the Monarch flying programme, just means it looks like ZB are expanding.
Like I said, two new ZB routes – despite not being an increase overall in the Monarch flying schedule. Yes, it is a case of dropped from MON programme, picked up by ZB – still two new ZB routes in my eyes. :rolleyes:. As Monarch’s fleet has barely grown in the last 5 years, but the ZB routes have increased 4 or 5 fold in the same period of time – it stands to reason that all of ZB’s expansion had come as a result of the charter programme’s reduction, doesn’t it? 😉
Tom – you never know, if the routes prove to be worthy of an increased frequency, we may well increase it. Personally, I don’t think ACE could justify more than twice a week max, but I do think that LPA has the potential for three or four flights per week. I also think that MAN and LGW could hold their own on the same destinations being served from both, with similar frequencies. I also think MAN/LCA, MAN/MJV (Murcia),LTN/LCA, LTN/LIS, LTN/MJV, LGW/TFS and LGW/MJV would fit in to the ZB operation. A few gaps could be filled in before the EZY’s of this world make a killing on them (LCA and TFS aside). I also cannot believe that no-one has even tried LTN/PRG yet. PRG is so popular these days, LTN and LPL must be the only airports in the UK that have an LCC based, with no PRG route. I would love to see ZB try something daring like LIS or PRG – more of a move into the city break market as well as our ‘traditional’ routes.
easyJet also released LTN/WAW (Warsaw) and LTN/KRK (Krakow) for sale today – they announced it a few weeks ago! Warsaw is daytrip-able too!! 🙂 🙂 😀 😀 I feel a trip to Poland coming on!!! 🙂
……..as do Monarch Scheduled – they can even be pre-booked with us!! 😉
I’m flying LHR/SFO with VS on 26th August and I chose Virgin because they were fantastic when I last flew to EWR with them. I cannot wait to fly with them again.
me thinks Bhoy was being sarcastic about Ryanair airport labels, Jeanske. 🙂 And perhaps I have misunderstood you, but Alghero is in Sardinia, not Corsica
He’s not actually starting in Kinloss until September unfortunately Allen. He’s off for a knee operation any day now and that’ll put him out of action for 6 weeks. Shame really – I would have loved to have seen the look on his face if you had have said you kinda knew his brother! 🙂
Well it seems that I did see the EMB190 land after all. Bugger! If that’s the case, it was flying about half an hour earlier than it was planned to have been. Bugger bugger bugger!!! 😡
Nope not yet in service, you think EZY would allow one of their planes to be parked up at an airshow for a week!:D
That would be a fully fledged bar-steward of a good point :o. Good job I’ve nothing to do with the organising of the Monarch fleet!! 😀
Agreed Andrew. The Embraer not flying (at the advertised time) was a big let down for me. I’m sure though I came out of one of the halls and caught the tail of the Embraer rumbling down the runway and then I’m just as sure that I saw it taxi to it’s stand next to the A318. Had it flown at all? Did I miss it? I went to Fairford last Sunday as well and I kind of enjoyed it although military isn’t really my bag. My brother has just finished his Flight Eng training at RAF Cranwell and is bound for RAF Kinloss to train further and eventually work on the Nimrod. We managed to get a tour of the Nimrod at Fairford when I told the pilot there about my bruv going on to them. There seemed to be a lot more at Fairford, but the £35 entrance fee was ridiculous and I will not be paying that amount to go there again. FAB, on the other hand was free thanks to a buddy in Monarch Engineering! 😀 Looking forward to your photos too. 🙂