No need to apologise and i’m well aware of Typhoons supersonic abilities but that doesn’t change what I said about the Typhoons dogfighting and post-merge WVR speed, which is about the same as every other fighter out there.

I must because it’s getting off-topic, so apologies once again. Not quite, Typhoon has the ability to enter the merge at much higher speeds than the likes of F-15, F-16, Super Hornet etc since they don’t pass Mach 1.0 (not on a regular basis at least) due to a number of reasons. The former has the ability to enter the merge at a much higher Mach. During Exercise Western Zephyr and Exercise Red Flag this year they were launching BVR shots at Mach 1.6 and entering the merge at a higher Mach than those they were up against as well as claiming kills in WVR at higher speeds also.

A perfect example of what i’m talking about, notice how the typhoon is not “faster” in the dogfight. The F-16 pilot has played to his advantages and worn the energy of the Typhoon down.

Indeed the F-16 has, no one has stated the Typhoon is invincible and can be as vulnerable as others, and it certainly isn’t always going to be playing at it’s advantages – which is high energy, altitude and speed. On a separate note, the video proves my earlier point to Growler which he seems to dismiss. If you’re higher and faster than your opponent you have the advantage in the fight. Speed, energy and altitude has been the way since WWI.

One of the first things that struck me of that image was the Pilot’s position in the aircraft from that angle, they just look like they’ve got excellent view.

A very old shot.

Wilhelm, some people post cr@p on a daily basis such as Goldust with his silly DSI paragraph. It’s a clever concept but it’s not ground breaking and it’s only a way to control the air flow into the engines, the US experimented with it in the ’90s. Although it wasn’t called DSI back then, English Electric came up with a concept which basically done the same job as DSI, it was on the Lightning.

Don’t like what I have to say (which is very often a hell of a lot more of a contribution to most posters), click the Ignore button.

And, since this is an English speaking forum, why not an English link of the one Y-20 posted earlier?…

Yea really… it doesn’t matter, it only matters to get the kill.

The higher you are, the faster you are, the greater your chances are of getting the kill. It’s been the same since WWI. That video of the Hornet and Mig-29 confirms it. When the Mig-29 climbed, he was higher and faster & had the advantage, when the Hornet tried to keep up he lost control of his fighter. Later on, when the Hornet pilot was showing his kill on the video, he was higher and he was faster, he got the kill… It does matter!

When a programme has some technical difficulties and, whom ever, reports these issues, I don’t understand why a lot of it’s cult followers get so touchy about especially when these issues are real. The F-35 lot seem to be very sensitive to these kind of reports, true reports. But I guess some people just want to hear nice things and nothing that might upset them… Silly.

But it doesn’t really go faster than any other fighters such as F-15’s, 16’s, Rafales, Gripens, Flankers, Hawks, Harriers etc etc when involved a dogfight. Sure it’s got great energy but is it actually flying faster in a dogfight, no, not really.

In WVR combat high speed plays an important element as it would in BVR, if one’s aircraft is designed for high speed WVR scenarios then it’s going to be used to it’s advantage, it’s what Typhoon pilots practice. They even practice BVR shots taken at Mach 1.6+ above 40,000ft – there’s not many fighters that do that since a lot of them rarely break Mach 1.0, F-15 springs to mind.

Sorry, off topic.

Well like i said, “It depends on the pilot/enemy if they’d want to engage in a Highspeed or Low Speed dogfight”. It doesn’t have to always be a Highspeed dogfight.

Indeed. On another note, it’s basically fighters have a broad range of A/A capabilities, such as HEA or in the Super Hornet’s case JHMCS. Everything is covered as much as possible.

Hear AMRAAM not ASRAAM XD

I’m sure someone said ASRAAM. XD

Has anyone seen any images of RSAF Tornado carrying a significant weapons load? I’m only came across some showing a RSAF Tornado with a couple of ALARMs and Sidewinders on the drop tank pylons… I’m beginning to think if the RSAF carry anything on their Tornados.