Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the RAAF has shown official interest in the F-35B, so I guess they are confident the weight problems will be overcome. With the RAN also looking at large LHDs in future, the theory at the moment it that a fixed wing Fleet Air Arm is in the makings of a return to Australia.

And guys have u concluded as to what the missile the VLS may have?? And pls clear my doubts abt all those missile designation am getting confused

I have a doubt, if the 9m317 (sa-n-12) that may be the one used on the P-15A?? or the same Sa-n-11 will be used. But do u guys think that if the Sa-n-11 is used in the VLS mode, it will get a booster like what the SM-3 has got ??? …. And if adding that booster will increase its range from the current 45 kms. But that said I guess the author of that article too has got confused with the missile and its range.

Blackcat,

From the article:

7 ) For Area Air defence Russias Altair Naval Radio Electronics Scientific Research Institute has developed VERTICAL LAUNCHED (VLS) of its well proven ****il-1 system, The new suite for P-15A DDG will comprise four 12 misssile SUB-DECK CELLULAR LAUNCHERS, with two launchers each being mounted fore and aft of the vessel , The 9M38M1 Cashmere SAM, is armed with 70kg HE warhead, has max speed of Mach-3(830 m/s) and can manoeure up to 20g, The missile can handle airborne targets travelling at 420 to 830 m/s, The reaction time is 16-19 seconds and kill percentage is 81 to 96 precent for a two missile salvo, Engagement range against Aircraft are 3 to 32 Km with altitudes from 15 metres to 15 Km, Ranges against incoming ASCM are 3.5 km to 12 km with altitudes from 10 metres to 10km.

8 ) For CIWS each DDG will be equipped with 2 Kashtan-M combined gun/missile system, Eack Kashtan-M comprises eight 9M311-1ME SAMs with jettiisonable boosters and two 30mm AO-18KD six barrel gatling gun with a combined rate of fire of 10,000 rounds per minute. Each system will store 28 SAMS and 1,000 rounds of 30mm rounds in an under-deck room directly under the combat module. The 9M311-1ME SAM can engage sea skimming targets between an envelope of 1.5Km and 10Km, while gun can engage targets between 500 metres and 4 km, ,FC is provided by both radar as well as an optronic Tracker/illuminator.

The Russian SA-N-11 Grison is the basic navalised 9M311 missile. The 9M311-1ME is I would assume a slightly improved version, possibly with better range. Perhaps based on the improved 57E6-E missile which is used by the Pantsir-S1. I am not 100% sure. I don’t think this missile will be used in the VLS module.

The article states the use of 9M38M1 in the VLS, and this at first got me confused too. However, the guys here state that it will be the 9M317, and NOT the 9M38 used on the P15A. The 9M38 family is SA-N-7 Gadfly, or the navalised SA-11. While the 9M317 is the SA-N-12 Grizzly, or the navalised SA-17.

Another question. Will this VLS be a cold launch or hot launch type?

Why does this design look familiar?

Thats probably because it looks like the OCEAN class of the RN, Ja.

Here’s a pic of a highspeed Greek Zubr.

Sorry Google Alepou 340MB is right, that pic of yours is a Ukrainian ZUBR. U420 Donets’k.

Why not just mount the wing higher, ad larger LERX, and they have their own Hornet – sorry – Cobra? :p

Would it be correct to say that most of the IRBMS or missiles are based on some VARIANT of the scud?

Most as in Soviet/Russian origin types? Like the Iraqi Al Hussein and North Korean Nodong variants? OR even the the Iranian Shahab series?

Well with a 60kg warhead that is plenty of room for a small tactical nuke to be command detonated to take out a group of fighters. A nuclear bomber would have some EMP protection afterall.

Kind of like putting the Genie back in the bottle eh Garry. 🙂 😉 :p

Well the ARROW system was designed from the outset as an ATBM system. Good news. 😉