I am afraid I dont share your enthusiasm about the Shtil-1 System. It is wholly inadequate for both anti-air and anti-missile duties. I dont think that the Shtil-1 is the first, second or even the third choice of the IN. It was procured probably because of Russian hard sell and arm twisting that has become public in the Gorshkov saga.

Yet the Russians are building the Shtil-1 into a VLS bank. Have the Indians payed for this to be done, as a request? The Russians have never had Shtil installed on any of their vessels in VLS. It may not be the best system available, and perhaps the Indians were pressured into it, but have the Indians tried to improve on it it by having it vertiacly launched, which vastly improves the rate of fire? Just wondering.

its on the 19-25 i believe..does anyone have the aircraft that are going to be performing and any one amongst us lucky enough to go there

Don’t they have a website you can look up? One day I WILL be there!! 😀

168(052B), 169(052B), 170(052C) and 525(054) in ZhouShan yesterday!

Impressive shot! I must say you can see the similarity in the designs well with this shot. Finanly the PLAN is starting to look like a modern state-of-the-art force. Let’s see if they can perform as well as they look.

Thanks digdream.. 🙂

Has sukhoi or anyone else released a drawing of the potential PAK-FA? I mean we don’t know how this thing will look like at all
1)All we know it will be a twin engined heavy fighter to replace Mig-29 and Su-27
2)We don’t know what kind of configuration will it be, where it’s intakes are going to be placed, what type of wing it will have or anything.

I suspect we are going to know pretty soon Srbin.

In August of this year, the whole lineup of domestic airplane construction will be demonstrated within the framework of the MAKS-2004 aviation show in the Moscow suburb of Zhukovskiy

Looks like it might be next month when we see a concept model of it. Let’s hope so! Can’t wait.

I hope you are aware of the Russian tendency of arm twisting; they dont allow you to pick and choose – its either all or none approach. Shtil is probably one of those deals; it is tied to something the IN desperately needs.

I am aware, and I can see what you mean. And if Barak can be paired off with a CIWS gun system, then I too would agree it would make the better combination. You mentioned Millenium? Do you refer to the Swiss 35mm GDM-008 ‘rotary’ gatling gun? Are the Indians looking at it?

Could this be the Chinese answer to Brahmos? Whatever it is, it is BIG!