Well it worked in the BofB movie!!!:D
Generally headsets are designed to filter out the low frequency noise. I use active noise cancelling DC headphones in Cessnas and Pipers and find that higher frequency tones such as warning tones are actually clearer. I have no experience of Merlin powered a/c so I don’t know if this is the same but am willing to try 😀
The T6 has a U/C warning horn that is actuated when the throttle is closed and the U/C is still in the up position. You can most certainly hear it over the engine!
It is always easy to sit in your arm chair at home and become an expert!! If you were not there you do not know what happened. As has been said the important thing here is that no one was hurt and the A/C will be back in the air this summer. We are all human and accidents happen, and sometimes mechanical things decided not to work for what ever reason!! And at the end of the day if this individual had not invested alot of his time and money this A/C it would not be in the air for us all to enjoy.
Generally headsets are designed to filter out the low frequency noise. I use active noise cancelling DC headphones in Cessnas and Pipers and find that higher frequency tones such as warning tones are actually clearer. I have no experience of Merlin powered a/c so I don’t know if this is the same but am willing to try 😀
The T6 has a U/C warning horn that is actuated when the throttle is closed and the U/C is still in the up position. You can most certainly hear it over the engine!
It is always easy to sit in your arm chair at home and become an expert!! If you were not there you do not know what happened. As has been said the important thing here is that no one was hurt and the A/C will be back in the air this summer. We are all human and accidents happen, and sometimes mechanical things decided not to work for what ever reason!! And at the end of the day if this individual had not invested alot of his time and money this A/C it would not be in the air for us all to enjoy.
I have heard Oxford Blue mentioned from somwhere before, looks a good match to me:D
I have heard Oxford Blue mentioned from somwhere before, looks a good match to me:D
I just got my info from the RAF webb site, are you telling them they’re wrong
or should I.:D:D
I would look here, also from the RAF web site:D
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafmarham/aboutus/2sqnhistorywwi.cfm
2 and 3 formed the same day. Both the first fixed wing squadrons in the world. no2 consider that they were formed first, well thats what they told us when they came over to see BE2 🙂
I just got my info from the RAF webb site, are you telling them they’re wrong
or should I.:D:D
I would look here, also from the RAF web site:D
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafmarham/aboutus/2sqnhistorywwi.cfm
2 and 3 formed the same day. Both the first fixed wing squadrons in the world. no2 consider that they were formed first, well thats what they told us when they came over to see BE2 🙂
To my mind, there several differences between the Hanna’s techniques and the above incident. This is a large aircraft with alot of inertia, and therefore the control inputs (particularly aileron) do not have such an immediate effect. Also the visibility from the cockpit is relatively poor- the pilots’ eye-line is quite high up, the view in some directions is like peering through a letterbox, and with such a large aircraft with the wingtips behind the pilots’ line of sight it can be very difficult to judge clearances. It’s a bit like driving a lorry through a width restriction at full tilt.
As for the Hannas, they appear to have only done such low flying in types with more control responsiveness and better visibility. Added to which, Ray was formerly a Tac Recce pilot where such low flying was an operational necessity.
Although I don’t know the history and experience of the crew involved in the above incident, I still insist that even with Hanna-like skills and experience doing such a thing in a DC3 is seriously ill-advised.
Sorry I wasnt aware your were an experienced DC3 pilot, how many hrs do you have on type?
Also as you say you have no knowledge of the Pilot of this DC3 and do not know of his experience levels.
As I said there is low, very low and to low. And I would generaly agree that this is a little wreckless. However it does amaze me when people spout from their arm chairs with praise for one and condemnation of another, without, in most cases any knolwedge or experience to back it up.
However if you are indeed a DC3 pilot of some experience you are in a position to coment.
Not s long ago there was a thead on here regarding Ray and Mark Hannah and how much the way they used to fly the Aircraft is missed. Both Ray and Mark would have been this low many times and yet they are hailed as hero’s in many eye’s. Double standards somewhat at work here, there is low and then there is really low and then there is to low!!
My understanding is that the team is 8 + Red10, but for combined aerobatic manouveres, 7 was felt to be a better balanced formation.
BTW, why is this in Historic aviation?
Because Historic covers Airdisplays as well.
In the bigger scheme of things it doesn’t really matter – as long as they have a safe flying year thats all that I care about.
Indeed, well said David. I agree totaly.
Does that mean that they will be cheaper:D
On a more serious note I to am sorry to hear that Kirsty is leaving to pastures newand wish her well for the future. Also the reduction to 7 Aircraft is a little worrying and I fear we have seen 9 Red Arrows for the last time as a full display:(
Looking fwd to getting the Reds Display list confirmed for the 2012 season:)
My work was in avionics and telecoms, but I’d never work for love, at least not before I had the money! It seems to me that the millionaires who own these aeroplanes are exploiting the engineers who work on them.
Regards
There are far more people out there who kep historic aeroplanes flying who are far from millionaires, infact quite the opposite!! Yes you have the likes of Stephen Grey but they are the exception rather than the rule. Many are scrapping what they can from where they can to keep em flying!
I wonder if 3 sqd are planning anything special as they were the first RFC sqd to be equipped with heavier than air machines a hundred years ago on 13 may 1912, a Typhoon with a full make over would be nice:D but don’t hold your breath:rolleyes:
I think 2 sqd would argue with you on that one as they consider that they were the first heavier than air sqd being formed earlier the same day. |And they are organising an event in May.
Now thats an Idea!!