I know thats there are lots of aeroplanes out there with that plaque in, but you’re forgetting dear old G-BBMV. Was soooo pleased to finally get the chance to have a trip in that last year. Makes me smile everytime I think of it.

Best wishes,

Martin

BBMV or DDMV?? chippy or T6;)

Fantastic, well done all. Instant invite to fly in to Sywell Airshow 2008:) 🙂

Just a quick reply from the burning desert, actually its pi**ing with rain at the moment!

The ground reps for wings were two taxiable BE2’s at about 7/8 full size to match the flying example, a Albatros cII to the same scale and i think the Gunbus was one of the Shout at the Devil exanples. The 504 was the same one as in Ace’s High. There was also a Sopwith Pup built by us for one episode, this still belongs to Uncle Davis and is currently at Coventry MAM. I know not where the rest are now, mores the pity. One of the BE2’s and the Albatros were at North Weald for A time.
There was plans to progess the series and plans were afoot to produce more Pups and a 1 1/2 Strutter but the main men at the BBC pulled the plug due to the costa envolved in producing more.

Back to the dessert for now!!!!!

By the way the Rumpler was never used in Wings!!;)

Blue Max – Possibly a somewhat sweeping statement ! I recall the RJ Nash collection for example rescuing a good number of historic aircraft and not flying many at all . There are a great number of aircraft preserved by people who have recognised their worth when the flying community have given them up as ‘uneconomical’ to repair. A couple of prime examples that spring to mind are the Monospar and Wikko . The forum doesn’t exist to just put aircraft in the air – it exists to further the interests of the broad church of FlyPast readers who have varied interests.

And the Wikko has been restored to fly has it not??? And i for one would love to see the monospar also in the Air, In fact there are many A/c in museums i would prefer to see with air under there wings. I belive this forum exists for those interested in Historic Aircraft, i prefer, for my part to see those where they belong, in the Air. I fear yours maybe a bit of a sweeping statement also, there are many Unique examples out there that are lovingly kept in the air at great expense in time and money by what you call the “Flying Comunity” for all to enjoy, Many more i fear would not exist it it were not for peoples desire to Fly them.

It’s a point that could be argued both ways. I’ve not said that a permit aircraft is in any way inferior. I’m restoring an AOP9 and there is only one place she’ll be going… Onto a permit (low n slow – I think I’ll be dropping quite a few wings when she’s restored).

But the fact is that I don’t think that CofA Auster’s needed to go onto a permit system… Nor did many of the people I spoke with, so while I’m not saying that I’m in the majority, I do know that I’m not alone with my views.

I don’t think my views are blinkered I even accepted that there are pro’s and cons with both systems. But, on reflection, I don’t think that all Auster’s would be ‘grounded’ in the next couple of years if we stayed on a CofA. But I also don’t accept that it’s a fact of life… If i were a fact of life, then no 50 year old aircraft would have CofA’s. It’s just a difference of opinions…

I do want to keep her flying, and as I said earlier, this will certainly not be a reason for me to get rid of her…

Yoy dont seem to want to understand that the way the new legislation is going an A/C like the Auster will not be able to, or become very difficult to looked after. So you stay on a CofA, you aeroplane needs some parts that are broken, U/S or whatever. You can no longer get those spare,s with the required CRS so you or your engineer canot fit them so canot get your A/C airworthy, so your CofA aeroplane will sit on the floor. If however it was on a Permit, fixed and flying again. Not going round in circles anymore, you fight to stay on a CofA and in a few years time you want be flying over Lincoln or anywhere else:confused:

Sorry VX but i am getting kinda fed up with with the fact that you appear to think that Permit A/C are in some way inferior!!! And i had had a long day trying to keep old aeroplane flying in the face of more and more red tape!
I can asure you that on the permit system your Aircraft will be far better catered for. The blinkered view is that CofA is somehow better, not beter just different. Yes the Permit system has some restrictions but what would you prefer, fly within those limits or not at all?? Its a fact of life im affraid, we’re all getting older and so is your Auster, if you want to keep her flying and enjoying her then things must change. Many Vintage A/C will be impossible to keep in the air on a full CofA, they will just not be able to , or will get to expensive to comply with the legislation. And im affaid that is just a fact of life, as someone who daily deals with trying to look after old aeroplanes under rules compiled for airliners belive me i know how hard it is getting ( and its gona get worse) to look after some of these old friends. Permit has to be the way fwd for many of these A/c.