Absolutely… I couldn’t agree more with you. In the same way as the engine could stop in an aircraft regardless of age. But as long as we fly within the law, and more importantly, within the limitations of the aircraft, then there is no problem with flying over built up areas… And generally speaking, I think most pilots take this into consideration.
But this is one of my ‘beefs’ with the permit system. One day, my Auster will be safe and legal to fly over Lincoln cathedral… The next day, I’m going to breaking the law… Nothing will have changed on the aircraft, but the paperwork will be different. Is that fair? I don’t think it is.
I know that there are some Austers owners who will be feeling pretty smug about the decision, there will be some that don’t care either way, but I honestly feel pretty lousy about it.
So you dont want to go onto a permit because you will no longer be able to fly over Lincoln Cathederal in your Auster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It really does make you want to scream dosent it:eek:
By the way steve, sorry to let you know but we wont be able to fly the BE over Lincoln Cathederal. I hope your happy with that, i know i am:D
My ‘beef’ is that I don’t think that the aircraft needs to go on a permit… And if the permit system is oh soooo fantastic, then why aren’t the tigermoth boys, chipmunk boys (to name but a couple) etc all jumping up and down asking for permits?
I feel (personally) that the permit system is inferior to a CofA. Weather I’m right or not, that is my opinion. I do think that the rules on permit aircraft will be tightened up and well, who knows what will happen.
I guess my days of scenic flights around Lincoln are finished… What is it… No flying over built up areas… I better start taking an interest in fields!!!!
Please tell me, apart from the fact that you can all put dodgy parts on your aircraft, what is the great appeal to the permit? In all seriousness, perhaps I’m uneducated on the matter, but i really don’t see the great appeal…
I can think of many Tiger Moth owners who would jump at the chance to go onto a Permit!!! they canot as DH Support ltd holds the TC. “Dodgy” parts as you call them are original parts, still in there wax paper, still in there original manufactures packaging that canot be supplied with an EASA form 1 or any other form of approved paperwork or CRS, therefore they canot be used on a CofA aeroplane. They can however be inspected and certified as servicerble to be used on a Permit A/C. also on a permit no longer available parts can be manufactured without going to an A1 approved company and incurring the relavent and huge cost!!!
The Permit Vintage Aeroplanes i have had the pleasure of dealing with are usually looked after to a much higher standard than you average C150 on a CofA.
If your concerns are based on the fact that you will no longer be able to carry out PT flights in your Auster then that is a different matter, i fear however that PT flights in vintage Aeroplanes may well be under threat whether on a CofA or not:(
Steve, No!!!!!:D
But there is more to life than Legends… if the organisers dont want to do it there then maybe someone else might… Why does every discussion relating to Warbirds have to degenerate into as discussion about Flying Legends???? I admire the work that the team at TFC do and undoubtably they organise a good show each year, but then so do other people!!!!!
Sywell 2008, August 24th :diablo:
Low, what’s the silver job sitting behind the BE2 and next to the Startled Fart? An Airknocker 100 bathtub?
Might be;)
VX, what exactly is your beef with the Permit system that for years has kept many otherwise hard to look after and spares source vintage aeroplanes flying Quite happily. Your Auster will be much easier to keep in the air once its on a Permit.
Great news and a step in the right dirrection, as i understand it though the anti’s still have 3 months to launch an appeal:( Lets hope they are not succesfull.
Who was at the controls? Was it Clive Davidson?
We had a nasty incident with a Super Decathalon a few years back, it had been modified and a smoke tank fitted under the belly between the U/C. This caused quite a bit of turbulence under the belly and when flying you could hear the belly fabric vibrating quite badly!! Whilst doing an Aerobatic practice the pilot experianced a control restriction on the elevator, to the point that he could not get full up movement, infact hardly any!! When he landed we inspected the A/C and found a piece of alluminium jammed in the elevator horn at the rear of the A/C, we examined the piece and eventually located where it had come from, The vibrating of the fabric under the belly had caused one of the fuselage frames under the belly to fail, a piece of the frame had then eventually found its way into the elevator control!!!
Simple, every time the wheels leave the ground, thats special;)
Hi,I recently ordered dvd set of “A piece of cake” but was told by the company i ordered from that it is no longer available ! Does anyone have any ideas where i could get it, thanks.
Ebay;)
Ollie,”SUSY” G-CDHI was not owned by RAC, it was owned by Taff Smith and the name changed to “Darling Ann”;) It has now since been sold i belive to Germany!!
and it will….again. Restoration is progressing very well with this particular Auster. Must remember to take my camera with me next time I visit…..hopefully Saturday.
Martin
Be good to see how she is coming along:)
During my post-op recuperating I started to tackle the huge task of trying to catalogue my umpteen thousand aviation phots before tackling my Grandads.
Well, to give me courage, I watched POC and could not believe that filming for this started almost 20 years ago. Certainly they were filming in Feb 1988.With that in mind, I have scanned some of my photos and present them below.
I was thinking that it would be nice if this thread could be made a Sticky so that others can post their pictures and recollections. We could also cover what happened to the aircraft. The photos below show the late and deeply missed Mark Hanna as well as My Grey. Also shown is the B25 camera ship that I was lucky to fly in this year at the Gathering of Mustangs (now, or should I say, returning to her Pacific Prowler monocle a real combat vet with four sunk Japanese ships).
I think you mean Grace not Grey, Nick Grace was tragicaly killed in a car crash, Stephen Grey is thankfully still very much with us;)
Any idea if it still exists as a recording somewhere/anywhere?
The Mag Men connection makes it very interesting–for me at least.A.
I doubt that it survives anywhere, unless someone has got on tape?? Might be worth asking DP if he has it.