Awesome video and I’m still young enough to enjoy the music as well :dev2:
The third aircraft (the one which was hit from above/behind) was not part of the same flight. They just happened to be at the same place at the same time.
I’m just interested in a general understanding of the rules and I assume they’re not all too different in the UK and Holland. I know some of you are not keen on speculations, but I worked on air crash reconstruction animations in the past (for US law suits) and have an interest in these things. Now I’m just trying to make sense of what I saw last weekend. You are welcome to browse any other thread on this forum if this one annoys or offends you. And naturally I am very happy that all turned out fine, so I reckon there’s no harm done discussing this.
27vet, thanks a lot, that’s an interesting document. The bit I had in mind is
9.3.2 Close formation leading is defined as being totally responsible for all aspects of the
safety, terrain clearance, positioning and handling for a number of aircraft that are
formating in close proximity to the lead aircraft.
…but it may not be appropriate in this case, seeing as the photo ship was flying ahead (and perhaps not “close” enough?).
I wonder though… the guy in the dark-coloured Piper appears to be gesturing (in warning?), next the Cessna eases off the power. Misunderstood signalling? (if the pilot looked at the Piper in the first place)
Another video which appears to be showing a last minute warning signal from the Piper pilot: http://nos.nl/video/416640-beelden-vliegtuigbotsing-vanuit-cockpit.html
Not interested in fingerpointing but understanding the situation so it can be prevented in the future.
From my perspective it looked like the Cessna photoship was flying around the banner-carrying Piper aircraft (making it the leader?). The first video suggests different. The second video shows they actually appear to have made an S-turn rather than a 180. I saw the action against the sun and I’d have sworn they were coming back to me. Funny how your point of view makes things look different than they were. Still… it’s pretty clear who flew into who!
Alternative link for the second video: http://nos.nl/video/416584-beeld-van-de-vliegtuigbotsing-wassenaar.html
Very, very lucky guys…!
From-the-cockpit video just released:
http://www.rtl.nl/xl/u/ab597914-3221-4409-9a3f-26be08125f7b
Note the guy in the dark-coloured Piper gesturing!
I remember seeing this before… Soviet I believe. But which one… :confused:
Well done, over to you!
Coincidentally I’d saved out a picture of a Loening OL-5 on my desktop the other day as a future subject! Pretty much the same plane, what are the chances! 😀
So, scratch that… here’s another!
Loening C-2?
It looks a lot like a De Havilland moth of some sort… but the details (exhaust, footsteps) don’t match any version I know.
That’s the one, Lazy8!
If you browsed the website based on the tiny copyright notice I hope you started browsing from the bottom up! :dev2: 😉
Over to you!
PS. Both L-39 and S.211 seem to have more angular glare shields and generally more modern looking.
The Super Pinto cockpit has a bit of a similar feel to it as the Cavalier Mustangs cockpit to my mind. Old style (1940s/50s) with a make-over that meanwhile looks dated as well! 🙂
To be honest I don’t know how “standard” this particular cockpit is as far as Super Pintos go and maybe it’s quite customised. I reckon given the obscure type and limited clues in the photo, it might have been a bit too tricky to be fair.
Nope on both accounts. Picture was taken in the States, I believe, but could have been the Philippines (hint! ;)).
Hint: it’s a military jet trainer.
Thanks AA! It’s a pretty tricky bunch, those Caudrons. Lots of very similar aircraft and the numbering can be a bit of a maze.
Alright… slight twist to the theme again, I hope nobody minds! :rolleyes:
Guess the plane from the inside out: