At a “Buy now” price of $88.000 it seems strange it didn’t sell. Not that I’m an expert in DC-3 pricing, but most that I have seen, have been 3 times that.
Guess that even at 88.000 its a bit of a mouthfull, considering what operation of a DC-3 involves. It ain’t no Stearman.
I’m now in possession of a PDF published by “Luftfahrtsammlung” in 1937. Although it contains no list, there is a drawing of the exhibit area, with aircraft marked. There is also a number of pictures.
Anyone interested can drop me a private message with their mail and i will send a copy.
On topic of the Luftfahrtsammlung; does anybody have a full list of what aircraft they had by the time the museum was evacuated? Some absolute gems were found after the war, but the bulk of the collection is still missing. If anyone has the details, I’d be much obliged.
This is as close as i have gotten.

I have written to Holger Steinie regarding the He-178 and a list of missing aircraft. Maybe i will get an answer…..
I don’t know who got what mistaken. The “Luftfahrtsammlung” is/was a totally different institution than the “Deutsches Technikmuseum” which was founded after the war and is still in existence today.
“…then we might be looking at a another story (compared to the destroyed by air raid)…”
What story?Peter
The most common story about the fate of the He-178 is, that it was destroyed in an air raid. Most sources i have seen, refer to the “Deutsches Technikmuseum” as the place of destruction (among them wikipedia. I know wikipedia might not be an academic source, but misinformation is very likely to be changed, so if a lot of people knew the difference between Deutsches Technikmuseum and Luftfahrtsammlung, one of them would change the Wiki).
If you read my post, it will become appearent that about 100 aircraft went missing from “Luftfahrtsammlung” during the war, in attempt to save the aircraft from destruction. The article does not mention any air raid destruction (its written by Holger Steinie who is in the aviation department of “Deutsches Technikmuseum” so it must be assumed, that he knows a thing, or two)
Thats what i mean about another story.
Maybe the He-178 went missing, rather than being destroyed.
Not the best picture, but you can just about make it out:

I was following the He-178 story and came across this:
“BERLIN AVIATION COLLECTION LOST WITHOUT TRACE IN POMERANIA
The aeroplane motor collection of which parts are exhibited in Cracow The largest aviation museum in the world was once situated in Berlin, which is largely unknown today. The “Deutsche Luftfahrtsammlung” (German Aviation Collection) was in Alt-Moabit Street near Lehrter Station, housing more than 120 planes, 200 engines, pictures, models, cups and many other things. When Berlin became more and more threatened with bombing raids by the allies, a plan was developed to transfer this museum. Fritz Petereit, who was born in Treptow on the Rega river, an employee at the airport’s society was commissioned to plan the transfer. Due to his origins he was convinced that Pomerania was one of the safest areas in the German Reich. Thus, in June and July 1943 the museum was evacuated to a great extent and everything was shifted either by train or trucks to safe places. Petereit remembered in this context transportations to Treptow, where three or four aeroplanes were stored in the pottery Ernst Bordt of Bollenburg and in the storeroom of the Laabs Brothers carpentry in Großen Küte Street. Many aeroplane engines were kept in the dance hall of a restaurant in Darsow, between Gummishof, Levetzow and Dargislaff. Two aeroplanes were removed to Hammer, between Schonlanke and Scharnikau; further aeroplanes were likewise taken out to Schlachau, possibly to the drying places of a brickyard. Several aeroplanes were stored in Ratzebuhr, north of Schneidemühl. Finally, the Quast Guest House of Neuhofen, between Fihiene and Scharnikau, was the storing place of three or four aeroplanes. After 40 years Petereit understandably could not remember further storing places.
For at the end of the war only 24 aeroplanes of the “Deutsche Luftfahrtsammhmg” were discovered by the Poles, the question arises what has happened to the remaining ca. 100 planes. Surely many were destroyed during fights. Since the museum also housed quite modern airplanes, some of them may have been taken away by the Russian Army. It would be of great importance to know whether the reader can remember anything relating to this matter. Who possibly had noticed in the summer of 1943 something concerning the transportation of aeroplanes? Did anybody notice aeroplanes in the storerooms or dance halls of their villages?
In connection with the museum’s further extension and the current negotiations between the Federal Government and the Polish Government concerning the return of cultural objects, it would be of great importance to obtain more information and perhaps to receive some pictures, too.
Holger Steinie, German Museum of Technique, Berlin “
http://spoils.libfl.ru/spoils/eng/spoil5_2.html
Now if “Deutsche Luftfahrtsammlung” (German Aviation Collection) have been mistaken for “Deutsches Technikmuseum” (“German Technical Museum”) then we might be lookning at another story (compared to the destroyed by air raid).
Hmmm, somebody would know who wrote it and why…..
Maybe a secret group of hackers and aviation history rewriters have ganged up 😉
Yes two He-178, but only one ever flew (again, as far as I know).
I wonder how that information would end on that page. It seems to be an otherwise well informed website.
Maybe i’ll write them a mail.
Any hangar fanatic, who can tell us anything about the doors on the picture (from the website) are they truely German doors? 😉
It might sound like a strange suggestion, but i have often used MS flightsim to get an idea of aircraft performance.
All the official aircraft and the official packages, have been designed to have realistic performance. Some of the better amateur aircraft are also pretty realistic.
I would find a good Bf-110 and use the GPS to gauge the run. In case you don’t have MS, maybe someone here can test if for you.
I think it could give you an idea about the Bf-110, if you can find a good model.
Here is a bit on the Pacific series:
*cough* Piece of Cake *cough*
Hmmm, does that mean that they already made such a serie?
If so, it has not been shown around here, or i must have missed it, which is very possible as i really don’t watch mush telly.
Was it any good?
As far as I know, there are only two Pembrokes flying. The Coventry one and one in Sweden. No Sea Princes, or Presidents are currently airworthy.
I also vote for “Das Boot”, the TV series and in German.
Band of brothers was great too. They are currently working on a similar series set in the Pacific (called, with some lack of imagination, “The Pacific”).
Maybe its from TV we are going to see war stories in the future. It seems that movies in the cinema have to follow a certain “template”, which is known to make profit, but really make lousy movies if you watch for anything else than the template-story. On TV you are able to produce a 10 hour story, which is how war stories really should be told.
We can hope they make a BoB series. Im pretty sure it would be a success.
As an alternative to all those previously mentioned nasty solvents, CAREFUL application of a heat gun helps to loosen the grip of PRC. Keep in mind the possible annealing effect on aircraft alloys, dont set fire to the stuff like when you are trying to strip the paint off household woodwork..Beware of fumes etc
At the end of the day elbow grease lots of scrubbing, no easy way..appalling stuff. Only comes off easily when you are trying to seal a leak in a far corner of a fuel tank!
Chumpy.
I have always avoided heat guns for PRC (althought i have tried it and it works), mostly due to the fumes. I have been told that PRC “smoke” fumes are even more toxic than MEK and wet PRC together.
Hard work to remove the stuff whatever you do, but it it didn’t stick so bloody well, there would be no idea in using it in the first place 😉
Just wanted to note, that Platoon won 4 Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, and Best Sound.
it mostly got good reviews, although, as always, there were a few bad ones too. I would certainly not say it was “panned at the time”, quite the opposite, as it became the base for a new generation of war movies.