lol, been busy for a couple of days, looks like i missed all the ‘action’.
Then why dont we see JH7’s instead of Su’s? Occams razor. C’mon.
er, we are seeing JH7s and JH7As now. the reason for the PLAAF choosing flankers is mixed, but a very influentual aspect in their decision making process would have been the fact that russia has a far more comprehasive and advanced PGM inentory then china. and since the russians arent playing ball in terms of giving china the most cost effective deal of intergrating russian weapons onto chinese radars and platforms, china has to buy the whole platform to use russian PGMs.
one of the main reasons for the PLANAF choosing the JH7 is again munitions, as the chinese C80X serious missiles offer a far greater range then anything the russians are willing to release.
the superb performance of the flanker airframe and the new ‘mini-AWACS’ capacity and other toys the newer MK2s (?) offer would have also been major factors (and was probably critical in the PLANAF’s decision to buy the type). but lets face it, not even the mighty flankers will be of much good in terms of a dogfight (or even BVR as it will be almost impossible for them to evade enemy AAMs coming at them) while carrying a full combat load of AShMs or PGMs, and would need escorts at least until the enemy AF has been destroyed or grouded, which dont realy make that much of a difference compared to a JH7 when you think of it (assuming the JH7 can carry the same weapons suit).
thats why the americans are pushing so hard to keep the embargo in place.
Try the DivX codec.
I must say I’m not too happy with the content of this video. The initial low-pass over the group of people and the german shepherd (?) on the ground was most likely not very pleasant. That dog is able to hear 800-1000 times better than a human with a normal hearing. Aircrews shouldn’t employ divert attention tactics or extreme low-passes directly over people or animals during peace time.
Those high AoA takeoffs and down-the-runway-passes didn’t look very safe either.If I was a French Flight Safety Inspector, I’d try to obtain the relevant flight schedules and logs in order to track down the responsible crews and present them with a ground service assignment.
cheers for the link, its working now. very impressive piloting, especially with the ARF, got it in one go, and he wasnt being slow about it either!
as for the group on the ground. oach, their ears are probably still ringing. however i doubt that it was an intentional overflight, probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time. 🙁 it was probably a hiking group or sth, and one of them caught a glips of the planes with his/her own vidcamera as they went overhead and they decided to add it to the vid.
lol
…Is it actually true that no European church organizations or governments have ever taken the initiative to express a formal apology for the atrocities committed during the Crusades? I’m simply speechless.
well im not sure about church organisations, but most western governments tend to hold the view that all that is in the past and has long been forgotten about. if there was a formal apology, i’ve never heard anything about it, maybe someone would care to fill me in if i have missed something.
… Or did you eject out of one yourself and lost your brain in the process?
lol, if that did happen, then it would actually ‘prove’ his ‘point’. :rolleyes: 😉
cheap doesnt automatically mean crap. hell, i havent yet met anyone who would actually prefer to pay more then what the price-tag asks for, but i have met plenty of people who wouldnt mind paying less for the same product.
ok, that makes sense, cheers.
it is simply idiotic to brand an entire people or religion based on the moranic and barbaric acts of a few murderous scum.
if some people would do less condeming and more listening/reading, then maybe they would see the truth, which is that the vast majority of muslims are actually quite peacelving, and it is only a very small minority of extremists that do most of the violent acts. (does anyone honestly believe that the world would see so few attrocities if even a small fraction of the 1billion+ muslims in the world were as some here have described? :rolleyes: )
as for texts on ‘Christians and Jews and others and the essential message is if you can’t convert them to Islam, then kill them. Many of the officials of Islam preach violence on a daily basis. Facts are facts.’
well since you dont speak arabic, then those texts must have been translations. and need i point out what kind of texts would be considered worth translating into english for western consumption? :rolleyes:
also, the existance of such texts cant really be that suprising to anyone with some basic history knowledge. ever heard of a ‘little’ event call the crusade? do the slightest bit of research and you will see that some of the things those crusaders did were far worse then what ‘outraged’ you. :rolleyes:
fair enough its been a very long time, but its hard to move on when you have suffered such injustice, especially when there have never been any attempt at reconsiliation on the part of the west to try and heal those old scares, and people have a tendency to be unforgiving and unforgetful of such things.
hey, i cant seem to get a picture either. 🙁 strange…
dont the SA10s and PAC-3s overlap? wouldnt it make more sense, in terms of logistics and training etc, to just choose one system and have it as the standard for the entired armed forces?
😀 some of us dont get hangovers no matter how much we drink, yours truely included ;). nice to see evolution has not yet abandoned the ‘modern’ man. 🙂
designed to frustrate 21st century planespotters with their fancy new digital cameras. now they’ll get a ‘heavily pixelated’ pic no matter how well they focus. :p
wasnt there a simliar story a couple of years ago? saw it on the news i think. as far as i can rember, it was a team in autralia that did it. not sure if this is talking about the same story.
One of the points in the JF-17 article (July AFM) was a source of some confusion.
The project Director said ‘they (chinese) have met our
expectations and we now have an avionics package available.’
but the PAF’s Deputy Chief of Air Operations was of the view that ‘ I
don’t think that we will ever operate a purely Chinese aircraft
with Chinese avionics’ :confused:
So I queried the point with the articles auther – below is his reply :-‘What AVM Marshal was saying and I should have expanded on it, was that the PAFwould never go with a Chinese fighter with chinese avionics that they suggest,ie never buy one without any of the PAF’s westernised ideas in it.’
Well that clears that up 🙂 Looks like the the avionics issue is resolved. Just as importantly shows how quickly China is racing towards self sufficency in military aviation. 🙂
they could be saying that china has met the minimum requirements the PAF have for the FC1/JF17, however, western products still have an edge in turns of performance and/or reliability and/or size and weight etc so the PAF would still prefer to have western radar and avionics if possible.
of course not, just to delay it long enough to invade iraq. :rolleyes: