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  • in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216564
    Fedaykin
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    Here`s what`s embarrassing!

    First you say that our S-125 system used thermal camera on that strike corridor and managed to get lucky which of course has nothing to do with reality, though it has everything to do with your wild fantasies!

    Than you talk about some radar snap shot and luck?!

    The target was detected at about 50-60km away and here is how this system works:

    “The SNR-125 “Low Blow” radar is designed to acquire targets using only bearing and range inputs from an external 2D acquisition radar, such as a P-12/18 “Spoon Rest” or P-15M “Squat Eye”. When acquiring a target, the Low Blow radar head is rotated to the target bearing and the UV-10 antenna scanning feed engaged to produce a 1° wide pencil beam swept in elevation.

    Once the target is acquired the Low Blow is switched into tracking mode, using the UV-10 antenna to transmit, the UV-10 to receive for ranging, and the scanning UV-11 chevron receive antennas for angle tracking. The radar head is mechanically steered in azimuth and elevation to maintain track. “Low Blow” provides manual tracking and automatic tracking.”

    You need to detect target, you need to track it and you need to guide the missile till impact. In war conditions that demands high level of training, time and effort and there is nothing “snappy” about it specially when you have limited time of about 20 seconds in order not to be hit by anti radiation missile. The same crew is credited with a F-16 kill and few more hits and at the same time they managed to evade more than 20 HARM attacks. That`s not luck, that it is what highly professional and motivated team is about to do with military tech from 60`s!

    F-117 couldn`t be engaged at much longer distance because effective range of the S-125 system is very limited. In ideal conditions max range of the rocket is not that greater than distance at F-117 is being shot and of course in real war conditions its effective range drops.

    Than you say that pilot did not maneuver because he didn`t want to “disturb” planes stealth characteristics.
    The best indicator there is, that tells you your stealth is compromised is RWR confirmation that you are being locked on and missiles going your way and the worst thing you can do is to remain to fly strait. If the pilot did that, well the result is obvious. If he did maneuver, the F-117 is basically a flying brick and it is in great disadvantage compared to classic fighter planes. There are countless times when the F-16 pilots brake the lock by violent maneuvering.

    And the F-117 was hit by the first rocket, not the second. Our “gunman” were laughing when they heard pilots story about first rocket missing and second hitting the plane. The reason for that lies in the fact that second missile didn`t even acquire the target and went strait ballistic, but I guess you know better, do you!

    Oh dear, you still want to show your lack of knowledge. Yes I do know better, the F-117 does not have an rwr installed.

    That rather knocks your point out of the water doesn’t it.

    So please do carry on giving us something to laugh about or go away and chat with your imaginary friends.

    No skin off my nose, you were the one he made an insulting and patronising dismissal of my first point. If you had been slightly more polite I might well of been inclined to be nicer. I am happy to have a constructive debate, how about you?

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216634
    Fedaykin
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    By the BBC???

    Well either the aircraft is invisible to radar, or it isn’t. If a radar guided the missile to the target, what’s your explanation, he aimed for the sky and there just happened to be an F-117 passing in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time?????

    No aircraft is invisible to radar, the F-117 is optimised to work in a high threat environment but it isn’t impervious to risk. No he didn’t aim for the sky and an F-117 was just there. He worked his system effectively, used the data fed from the P-18 and then got lucky. The F-117 has had a hugely successful career, one shoot down under rather unique circumstances is not a sign of a failure in the system itself.

    At 8nm an F-117 is not invisible to radar. That is the range that the aircraft was engaged by an Sa-3 battery, the second missile hit. During Desert Storm the L band 1022L radar on Royal Navy Type 42 destroyers were tracking the F-117A at over 150 miles out as they progressed down their strike corridors.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216635
    Fedaykin
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    Fredaykin, this might be of interest for you: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?128354-will-stealth-become-irrelevant&p=2109855#post2109855

    From that post:

    It was shoot down on the fourth night. Hardly a long time to learn its “regular patterns”, but from a mission planning perspective the lesson was that 4 days may be enough for the enemy to learn your routines.

    Also: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?123991-F-35-News-amp-Multimedia-thread&p=2066880#post2066880

    Another fun thing is that according to GWAP the F16 was more effective in actually hitting the targets. Night time losses can be summed up as follows from Desert Storm + Allied force.
    F117 – 1 damaged, 1 lost (8:15 in march is night as it is dark in Serbia at that time…)
    F-16 – 0 damaged, 1 lost
    A-10 – 0 damaged, 0 lost

    Those are the actual numbers.

    Agreed, four days is what it took. Serbia had a good SAM and Radar network, up against NATO they got a couple of shoot downs. One A-10 lost an engine just to correct your list.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216655
    Fedaykin
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    You are embarrassing yourself, trust me!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5UwhsD43rQ

    Translation is not the best, but it will do.
    English is not my mother language, Serbian is (though I can speak and understand 4 languages) and I hope you will excuse my misspelling. And please, feel free to ask anything you want to know about Kosovo war, because I was there and the man who shot the F-117 is living few miles from me. I will be glad to give you some guidelines.

    Oh so you know a man now do you.

    We haven’t heard that before here have we.

    If YOU want to be patronising and make yourself look silly by all means go ahead.

    What happened that night is well reported and I see no need to further yet another conspiracy theorist

    You are only embarrassing yourself….

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216666
    Fedaykin
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    Where did I mention Greek spies? Not once on this forum! Others have pointed out that the NATO airbase the jets were based at could be easily watched, add to that only a narrow choice of strike corridors and the NATO strike packages got predictable in the congested airspace.

    There was a prowler and an RC-135, neither were able to help that night. The F-16CJ Wild Weasel were indeed not deployed that evening.

    Doesn’t change the fact that it was a massive fluke by Zoltan’s radar battery got that shot home.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216668
    Fedaykin
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    Thrust me my friend, you don`t have the slightest clue about the thighs you are talking about. . .and what`s with the “radar snap shot”? I would like to hear explanation how can you hit the plane with S-125 Neva using “radar snap shot”.

    And I must admit that this is new to me:

    You have SAM lock, you have visual conformation that two missiles are going your direction and you try to maintain as stealthy as possible? As long as you have a lock on you, and missiles going your way you are not stealthy. It´s like closing your eyes hoping nobody is going to see you.

    Why thank you, neither do you. “Thrust” and “Thighs”… really.

    I was talking about the P-18 search radar that was feeding information to the Sa-3 battery. The Sa-3 battery got a snap shot from the RADAR and then engaged at about 8nm. YES you stay stealthy as you possibly can, the pilot Lt. Col. Dale Zelko was a veteran of Desert Storm, the aircraft has a masked exhaust as well as the reduced radar signature. A violent manoeuvre might increase his radar cross section or expose more of his exhaust trail. In Desert Storm the pilots talked about SAM launches against them, they avoided changing their flight profile.

    The pilot himself stated he saw both missiles launched at him, don’t worry as YOU don’t know what your talking about it is easy to make these mistakes. Lucky I am here to correct you…

    Patronising enough? Friend…

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

    in reply to: The PAK-FA News, Pics & Debate Thread XXIV #2216707
    Fedaykin
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    Russia has a lot of experience with ramjet tech. so I am not sure whether it is discarded and if it is discarded so there will be good reason for that. than you add this failed project called Meteor with its slow procurement rate and Germanic propulsion. its with realm of possibility that they have good knowledge about it.

    even now Germany cannot withhold much.

    http://www.siberianinsider.com/russia-and-germany-to-continue-military-training-range-construction.html
    http://www.thelocal.de/20100522/27365

    My word JSR that is a blatant troll comment there. The MBDA METEOR is not a failed program by any measure, the missile is in the pre-production phase and completed multiple test firings unguided and guided.

    Fedaykin
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    Hmmm has the Kfir order also hit a barrier? Going on this report they appear to be trying to buy spares and maintenance for their current Mirage-III and Mirage-V fleet:

    http://www.infodefensa.com/latam/2014/05/13/noticia-fuerza-aerea-argentina-licitacion-repuestos-mirage.html

    Google translated:

    (Infodefensa.com) Montevideo -. The Argentina Air Force has opened a tender for the procurement of preventive and corrective maintenance of joint BEN-BGA and their associated systems for the Mirage III EA / DA and central sets of giroscopia AJB7 and associated components for Mirage V .

    This tender is part of an overall contract year (and renewable for another 12 months) to ensure the proper functioning of the systems of the Mirage Argentines.

    While the original idea was to keep operating at least five Mirage III four Mirage V (Finger) and five Mirage VA along with some two-seaters, the reality is that this project could not be realized, because sometimes the operation is down to only two operational units with an average of six total environment.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216732
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    Neither, it was lost because the Serbs shot back, and a loaded bomber can’t dodge.
    The solution is a constant suppression of air defenses, but that requires huge amount of resources,
    and i think the way to go if you got the resources is ever loitering platforms above intended air space, with long endurance UAV

    Errr? The F-117 that was shot down had already dropped her bomb load. One of the reasons given for why the Serbs were able to get a snap shot with their radar was because the F-117 was forced to manoeuvre due to the congested nature of the airspace. A turn in relation to a fixed radar site can increase an F-117’s radar signature 100 fold. The pilot of the F-117 visually saw both missiles that were launched at him but didn’t manoeuvre as per training as that would compromise what stealth he did have.

    There was a huge SEAD/DEAD operation during Operation Allied Force so I am not entirely sure what you are driving at. On the night there was an EA-6B Prowler operating albeit a bit too far away and an RC-135.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2216744
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    Has been the case for some time. Stealth without EW isn’t stealth. Case in point, Serbia 1999, F-117A – flew without EW aircraft, got shot down by an SA-3 (1960s system).

    Oh Good Lord not this all over again!

    The F-117A shot down in 1999 was not lost due to a lack of EW support! It was lost due to poor mission planning, the aircraft flew down a strike corridor that had been used more then once. The Serbian defence forces placed an Sa-3 battery fitted out with a thermal camera on that strike corridor and managed to get lucky.

    The USAF DID NOT CHANGE its mission tactics around the use of EW support after this shoot down. It was a silly mistake down to poor mission planning combined with some clever thinking by the Serbians around placement of their Sa-3 launchers.

    in reply to: QEC Construction #2029998
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    Well more coats of Humbrol paint code 64 has been applied to the hull:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/qeclasscarriers/14044936377/

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2218085
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    “Russia is not a corrupt state if you look at the big picture” (sic), fascinating insight there JSR….oh no you are yet again wrong

    http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2013/results/

    thanks I needed a laugh JSR

    in reply to: US and RAF pilots 'had mid-air row' over Norfolk #2219117
    Fedaykin
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    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread 2. #2030234
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    No

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2219337
    Fedaykin
    Participant

    Not entirely the case Swerve, the RAF still have a few Jaguars at Cosford as ground instructional airframes with DCAE. Some can still taxi under their own power, they are taken for runs up the runway at the annual airshow:

    http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/chrisward123/DCAE%20Cosford/Cosford-10.jpg

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