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  • in reply to: MiG-29`s combat record #2597235
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    The F-22 was designed with TVC from the beginning on. Totally different thing than retrofitting it. You can reduce stress levels and achieve required manouvres different. If you already designed the aircraft it is less helpful. The Su-xx may use it to reduce airframe g-load as it is a little more “flexible” than other aircraft (due to its size and weight). If loaded the airframe can only sustain (or is only cleared for) ‘low’-G manouvres.

    The latest generation fighters such as the MiG-29OVT and Su-35BM have thrust vecoring to improve agility, the reason it has not been fitted to many fighters was engine technology and price costs, if you remember the americans had the F-15 ACTIVE and F-16 VISTA, besides the X-31, all those fighters were not put into service simply because of the F-22, why? costs and lack of stealth.

    http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/F-15ACTIVE/Small/EC96-43456-1.jpg

    See that the Mig-29OVT is far far more complex than the F-15 ACTIVE and only is comparable to the F-16 VISTA

    http://www.defesanet.com.br/rv/maks2005/imagens/mig-35_3.jpg

    Germany insisted in thrust vectoring in the Eurofighter program, India has some powerful Su-30MKIs, the reality thrust vectoring has many uses, but economic and practical limitations have limited the application of the F-15 ACTIVE into operational service in the USAF or the Su-35BM in Russian service.

    The MiG-29OVT is super agile simply to have super manueovrability.

    in reply to: blinders and fiddlers #2597495
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    Su-15

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    Some mexican AWACS ERJ-145

    in reply to: Super Hornet "kills" Raptor #2597628
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    Some of us arent trying to doubt the HUD shots cuz we cant believe that f-18e/f can shoot down a f-22A in dogfight..heck theoretically the MKI should make minced meat out of a viper but as both indian and USAF pilots admitted the Viper was able to make kills however unfequent they might be(f-16.net pilot who said that both sides have plenty of HUD imagery to show kills) ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ESTABLISH THE AUTHENTICITY OF THESE IMAGES.

    I agree totally with you in fact MiG-29s were also on MiG-21`s HUD while training

    in reply to: MiG-29`s combat record #2597677
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    Low-speed performance looks well on air shows. What normally counts is the level manouverability (if it counts at all) between M0.8 and M1.2. Lower speeds were maybe useful in times with less powerful fighters.

    The agility will not be the key driver for any decision on future aircraft. The -OVT is more a demonstration that this technology can be fitted to the airframe. I anyhow expect the fade of the MiG-29 and the manufacturer himself settled. It will be merged with Sukhoi in a few years.

    Well the MiG-29 is excellent at those speeds, i doubt what you are saying a lot so then why the Eurofighter is called the most agile fighter at supersonic speeds? or the F-22 has thrust vectoring or the Su-35 has it?

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