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  • in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #1996582
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    http://www.livefistdefence.com/2013/08/navy-schematics-of-1st-indigenous.html
    From navy’s press release.
    http://i.imgur.com/Mob7ED0.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/WtT6aLD.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/CHET5PD.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/SQZm9um.jpg

    ^^ Lol at naval f-15 🙂

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #1996614
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    Final nod soon for Navy’s advanced stealth frigate
    Express news service : New Delhi, Sat Aug 03 2013, 01:16 hrs

    India’s largest ever indigenous defence contract is shortly expected to get final approval with the Navy freezing the design and specifications for the P 17 A stealth warships and completing all commercial negotiations for the project.
    Top Navy designers who have been working on the project have confirmed that the project is expected to get final clearances from the Cabinet Committee of Security (CCS) shortly after which construction of seven modern warships will commence at shipyards in Kolkata and Mumbai.

    The mega project, that was expected to be worth Rs 45,000 crore when it was cleared by the Defence Acquisition Committee (DAC) in 2009, is billed as a game changer for the Indian ship-building industry not only for being the most expensive Indian warship yet but also because it will give shipyards the critical technology of modular construction that enables a rapid production rate.

    The Navy’s top ship designer, the Director General of Naval Design Rear Admiral A K Saxena, said Friday the P 17 A class frigates would be in the 6,700-ton category and would have the latest in stealth features, including fully concealed weapon systems and sensors.

    “The warships will have the latest stealth features as well as advanced indigenous weapon systems. The modular construction methodology that GRSE (Kolkata) and MDL (Mumbai) have acquired will ensure the warships will be built in a reduced time-frame,” a senior Navy officer said. While GRSE will construct three ships, four will be constructed by MDL.

    The new generation warships, which will be based on the P 17 ‘Shivalik’ class that has already been inducted but will be larger at 149 metre with a draught of 5.3 metre, are currently running behind schedule by at least two years.

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/final-nod-soon-for-navy-s-advanced-stealth-frigate/1150502/0

    Project 17A will get approved soon. Might be armed with Brahmos 2.

    http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5990/p17aconcept1w1.jpg

    in reply to: Indian Missiles News #1789705
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    Seeker with indigenous FPA passes trials.

    DRDO tastes rare success in evaluation trials of Nag
    Jatinder Kaur Tur, TNN | Aug 2, 2013, 03.57 PM IST

    HYDERABAD: Finally some success has come in the way of Defence Research and Development Organization with “fairly accurate results” during evaluation trials of Nag, a Gen-3 anti-tank guided missile, top DRDO officials said.

    Actual trials of Nag will begin by early next year officials said, as the trial results of third-generation “Fire-and-Forget” anti-tank missile was satisfactory and previous anomalies rectified, G Satheesh Reddy, director, Research Centre Imarat (RCI) said.

    He along with officials of Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL) were present at Rajasthan for the trials.

    It was almost a year back, when the anti-tank guided missile, Nag was tanked in its user trials by Indian Army in Rajasthan.

    The DRDO attributed the failure to high temperatures in the desert where tests were being conducted, bringing the target temperature to same level as that of ambient temperature.

    DRDO officials while speaking to TOI said these evaluation trials were conducted after integrating the “more sensitive” and “higher resolution” seekers developed by Research Centre Imarat (RCI) of DRDO here with Nag.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/DRDO-tastes-rare-success-in-evaluation-trials-of-Nag/articleshow/21552750.cms

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #1996762
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    A more recent image. It will look like a carrier now.
    http://i.imgur.com/UXSCEND.jpg

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #1996822
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    http://i.imgur.com/rsD8Fwr.jpg

    INS Vikrant, India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, to be launched on August 12
    Reported by Sudhi Ranjan Sen, Edited by Amit Chaturvedi (With inputs from IANS) | Updated: August 01, 2013 22:02 IST

    New Delhi: India will launch its first indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vikrant, on August 12 from the Kochi shipyard. This will make India only the fifth country after the US, Russia, Britain and France to have the capability to build such vessels.

    “About 83 per cent of the fabrication work and 75 per cent of the construction work will be over when the ship goes into water,” said Indian Navy’s vice chief, Admiral Robin Dhowan.

    The rest of the work, including the flight deck, will be completed once the ship is launched, the Navy vice chief said. The aircraft carrier is expected to be inducted into the Indian Navy by 2018.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ins-vikrant-india-s-first-indigenous-aircraft-carrier-to-be-launched-on-august-12-400086?pfrom=home-lateststories

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2268543
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    I also don’t understand why the article makes it seem as if it is an issue vs. a domestic HAL product, that was not ready in time, and raising the requirements would have just resulted in another, probably more expensive, foreign product.

    The original requirements called for a full trainer like PC-21 and Super Tucano. Lowering the requirements gave PC-7 an unfair advantage against KT-1 and T-6C. Also HAL developed HTT-34 and HTT-35 flying prototypes in eighties and nineties and IAF didn’t show any interest either. Regarding HTT-40, the IAF did not issue PQSR until it was too late, issued PQSR comparable to Super Tucano and PC-21, recommended MoD against issuing HAL any funds for HTT-40, diluted requirements in the middle of procurement and is still opposed to HTT-40 when HAL is developing it with internal funds by reporting inaccurate procurement costs. Moreover, IAF want to buy more PC-7 for intermediate training months before HJT-36 achieves IOC. This is shady behaviour in my book.

    http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/admissions-obfuscations-in-iaf-clarification-on-bs-reports-113073100025_1.html

    in reply to: Indian Missiles News #1789716
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    HYDERABAD, July 30, 2013
    Seeker evaluation trials for Nag carried out in Rajasthan
    Y. MALLIKARJUN

    Seeker evaluation trials for the anti-tank Nag missile were carried out in hot desert conditions in Rajasthan on Monday.

    According to Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) sources, the trials to evaluate the performance of an improved version of Imaging Infrared (IIR) seeker were carried out against both moving and static targets for different ranges of 2.8 km and 3.2 km. While Nag missile has a maximum range of 4 km, the seeker proved to be accurate only up to 2.5 km in extremely hot conditions in the trials conducted last year.

    With the Army seeking improvement, scientists at the Research Centre Imarat (RCI), a key DRDO laboratory, had indigenously developed an improved version of IIR seeker based on detector. An IIR seeker detects objects based on temperature contrast.

    With the temperature difference being minimal in hot summer between a tank and sands in the desert, the scientists developed an improved seeker with better resolution to distinguish even minute temperature differences while detecting the objects, the sources added.

    The sources told The Hindu that no missiles were fired in the seeker evaluation trials.

    The trials for 2.8 km range were successful to a large extent as the seeker tracked both the moving and static targets, the sources added while declining to reveal further details on its performance in tracking targets 3.2 km away.

    The trials would be carried out for different ranges, including the maximum range of 4 km, in the next few days for image quality and tracking.

    Meanwhile, DRDO scientists are planning to carry out Nag missile test with a more rugged version of NAMICA, the missile carrier. The launcher had been hardened further to withstand missile firing loads. Its sealing also has been improved.

    Seeker evaluation trials for Nag carried out in Rajasthan – The Hindu

    Let’s hope the RCI seeker passes trial. In last year’s trials the seeker containing focal plane array (FPA) from Sofradir had less than 100% target dissemination capabilities at high temperature and humidity typical of Indian desert conditions.
    According to Ajai Shukla’s report last year, the improved seeker was supposed to have a higher resolution FPA from Sofradir as the indigenous FPA technology was not mature enough, but it seems the latest rounds of tests are being carried out using an indigenous FPA.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2269424
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    A 0 60 ejection seat is that worrisome to you?

    Very. MoD issues funds on the user recommendations. When the user starts acting contrary to its own advice, it starts to reek of malevolent behaviour. I am not opposed to the purchase of PC-7 on emergency basis. What’s more disturbing to me is, that IAF is still recommending MoD against issuing funds to HAL for developing HTT-40 as per IAF’s SQR while ordering requesting additional PC-7 at diluted parameters even when they have already ordered enough to offset any immediate exigencies. This whole affair stinks worse than a fish market in Chennai heat.

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    Ajai Shukla | New Delhi July 29, 2013 Last Updated at 23:27 IST
    IAF diluted al least 12 benchmarks for trainer aircraft

    The documents reveal that, up to Sep 29, 2009, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) was indigenously developing 181 BTA for the IAF, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer-40 (HTT-40)

    Retired Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi, former Indian Air Force (IAF) head, faces a Central Bureau of Investigation chargesheet for allegedly diluting a single specification of the VVIP helicopter that India was buying.

    In the Air Staff Qualitative Requirements (ASQR), the helicopter’s service ceiling was lowered from 6,000 to 4,500 metres. This made the AW-101 helicopter eligible and its Anglo-Italian manufacturer, AgustaWestland, bagged the euro 556 million (Rs 4,377 crore) IAF contract for 12 helicopters.

    That violation, now under investigation, is dwarfed in the IAF’s purchase of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II basic trainer aircraft (BTA), where at least 12 benchmarks were changed between March and October 2009, including some relating to pilot safety. These allowed the PC-7 Mark II, fielded by Swiss company Pilatus, to qualify and win an IAF order worth $640 million (Rs 3,780 crore) for 75 BTA.

    Business Standard is in possession of the documents relating to this case. Asked for comments, the IAF has chosen not to respond.

    The documents reveal that up to September 29, 2009, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) was indigenously developing 181 BTA for the IAF, dubbed the Hindustan Turbo Trainer–40 (HTT–40). On March 5, 2009, IAF laid down stringent performance benchmarks, dubbed Preliminary Air Staff Qualitative Requirements or PSQR.

    These began getting diluted in September 2009, when the ministry of defence (MoD) permitted IAF to import 75 BTA through a global tender. Within days, the IAF issued a relaxed ASQR, in a document numbered ASQR 18/09. While the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II would not have met the earlier PSQR formulated for HAL, the new ASQR seem almost tailored for Pilatus.

    Among the 12 dilutions Business Standard has identified, the most worrisome is doing away with the requirement for a ‘zero-zero ejection seat’. This allows pilots to eject even from a stationary aircraft on the ground (zero altitude, zero speed). The October 2009 ASQR does not require a zero-zero ejection seat. Since the PC-7 Mk II has ‘zero-60’ ejection seats, i.e. the aircraft must be moving at 60 knots (110 kmph), dropping the earlier requirement made it eligible for the IAF contract.

    The PSQR of March 2009 required the BTA to have a pressurised cockpit, letting the trainee fly at altitudes above 15-20,000 feet. But the ASQR of October 2009 dispensed with this. The PC-7 Mark II has an unpressurised cockpit.

    Also diluted was the requirement for good external vision from the instructor’s rear cockpit, a crucial attribute in a BTA. The PSQR of March 2009 mandated a field of view of ‘minus eight degree vision’ for the rear cockpit. The ASQR of October 2009 dispensed with it, specifying only, “the rear cockpit should be sufficiently raised to allow safe flight instruction”. The PC-7 Mark II, which does not meet the eight-degree specification, became eligible.

    ‘Glide ratio’ is another important attribute for a light, single-engine aircraft. The glide ratio of 12:1 specified in the March 2009 PSQR meant the trainer could glide, in the event of an engine failure or shutdown, a distance of 12 km for every one km of altitude that it lost. Which would enable a BTA flying at an altitude of five km to glide for 60 km, landing safely at any airport within that distance. But the October 2009 ASQR relaxed the glide-ratio requirement to 10:1. That is precisely the glide-ratio of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark II.

    The ASQR of October 2009 also relaxed the requirement for ‘in-flight simulation’. This permits the instructor in the rear cockpit to electronically simulate instrument failures, training the rookie pilot to handle an emergency. The PSQR of March 2009 required this facility; the HTT-40 being developed by HAL also has these. The PC-7 Mark II does not and the relaxation of this condition made it eligible for the IAF tender.

    Other relaxations that made the Pilatus trainer eligible include increasing the take-off distance from 700 to 1,000 metres and reducing maximum speed from 475 kmph to 400 kmph.

    On Monday, this newspaper had reported (Indian Air Force at war with Hindustan Aeronautics; wants to import, not build, a trainer) about a personal letter earlier this month from Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne, the present IAF chief, to Defence Minister A K Antony, asking for HAL’s trainer project to be scrapped and another 106 PC-7 Mark II trainers be imported from Pilatus, a purchase that will benefit the Swiss company by an estimated $800 million (Rs 4,750 crore).

    Browne’s involvement with the basic trainer dates back several years. From March 2007 to May 2009, he was Deputy Chief of Air Staff (DCAS) at IAF headquarters, handling all acquisitions. Four months after he handed over to Air Marshal N V Tyagi (not to be confused with the former IAF chief, S P Tyagi), the IAF issued the ASQR, with the relaxations that benefited Pilatus.

    Asked for comments, N V Tyagi told Business Standard the PSQR of March 2009 set unrealistically high standards for HAL to meet. These were lowered in the October 2009 ASQR because the IAF was going for global procurement. Lower standards would bring in more vendors and generate competition.

    Says Tyagi, “The earlier PSQRs matched the performance of the Embraer Super Tucano, which many IAF officers considered a good trainer. But the IAF didn’t believe that HAL could build such a trainer quickly. After a series of HPT-32 crashes (then the IAF’s basic trainer), it was decided in September 2009 to buy 75 basic trainers from the global market. Fresh QRs were framed in order to bring as many vendors as possible into the tender.”

    The question remains — why were exacting standards set for a HAL-built trainer lowered when it came to an international purchase?

    http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/iaf-diluted-al-least-12-benchmarks-for-trainer-aircraft-113072901068_1.html

    Different standards for domestic and imported products. Haven’t we heard this before. :rolleyes:

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    Izd 30 wont use flat nozzle. Seems nozzle will be from 117… (confirmation pending)

    More than flat nozzles, I’d like to see some engine cowls. That bare metal spoils the look.

    in reply to: best looking stealth fighter #2270092
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    Yf-23> Pak-Fa> anything else flying/cancelled/proposed.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2271061
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    AMCA development continues, but on DRDO’s own funds..the GoI will fund the AMCA after the Tejas achieves FOC

    AMCA to be developed in 12-15 years

    SP’s have been very good in their reporting till now, but ‘larger than FGFA’ is a very obvious mistake, unless they were referring to the scope of the program. The heaviest MTOW estimates reported for AMCA (i can’t find that report now) were ~ 27 tons. Anyhow, the Kaveri engine 3 stage LP fan design tender even after 3-4 month extension should be over by now, although it would be foolish to expect an announcement anytime soon. Since the size constraint has been put up as ~780 mm, Eurojet GmbH might have to just dust up their EJ-200 growth plans for this contract.

    in reply to: Indian Air Force Thread 20 #2271506
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    Btw, there was a very interesting “diamond” sentence in last Air & Cosmos. Interviewing an IAI top official about Heron TP. The guy saic that “francization” of Israeli stuff is commonly mastered by IAI, “As testimonied by the input of israeli parts in indian rafales, required by the customer“.

    Not available on their website ?

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    Monday , July 15 , 2013
    Military tech prop for indigenous plane
    KARAN CHOUDHURY

    New Delhi, July 14: India’s first civilian aircraft, the plan for which was approved by a high-level committee on manufacturing headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh last week, may be based on the same platform currently being used to develop a military transport aircraft.

    The move is expected to reduce the time taken to design and develop an aircraft from scratch.

    The 90-100 seater aircraft will be built by a collaborative venture of National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL), Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), state-run organisations and private partners.

    At present, HAL manufactures aircraft and helicopters for military use under licensed production agreements with foreign vendors.

    However, aviation analysts point out that HAL has already entered into a joint venture with Irkut Corporation of Russia to develop and make 60-tonne multi-role transport aircraft (MRTA). Under the pact, Ilyushin Design Bureau of Russia will design the MRTA, and HAL and Irkut will manufacture it in Kanpur.

    http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130715/jsp/business/story_17117576.jsp

    MTA might spin off into a civilian airliner.

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