As to admitting I am wrong. All I was saying was Flanker Production will decrease over the next decade. As it is replaced by more modern 5th Generation Types. I hardly see anything in that statement as being wrong or not factual.
Considering that HAL, Irkut, Knaapo and Shenyang are all increasing their outputs for a major part of the coming decade, flanker numbers would be on the rise. In the next 10 years, the only bird that will come close to that production rate (or exceed it) is the F-35.
http://defense-update.com/20130205_indian-targeting-pod-2013.html
February 5, 2013 at 21:41
Indian Selection of Future Targeting Pod in 2013
Posted by Tamir EshelIndia has floated a tender for the delivery of more than 100 advanced targeting pods for its strike fighters, Two systems are under consideration โ the French Damocles pod, already employed on Mirage 2000 and Rafale, offered by Thales of France, that has teamed with Bharat Electronics Ltd. (BEL) for this program, and the Israeli Litening, the latest version of the targeting pod developed by RAFAEL. According to company officials, the Litening pods being offered are superior in technological terms. RAFAEL and Lockheed Martin are often competing targeting pod procurements worldwide as their products โ Litening and Sniper are similar in capabilities and performance. In India, however, the US company remained out of the competition for unexplained reasons.
India is already operating previous generations of Litening on its fighter planes and RAFAEL has sourced Indian subcontractor significant contracts for the supply of subsystems and services for these products.
Both companies have passed the technical selection and are expected to demonstrate their pods in upcoming months. Selection of the Lowest Bidder (L1) will follow later this year (2013).
๐ก Why-can’t-they-just-order-more-litening pods-in-a-government-to-government-deal-!!!
Who is going to pay for the integration of Damocles, if it is selected, with half a dozen aircraft types and all those munitions !!
Mr. A Fomin’s Take-off magazine ahead of Aero India . Some interesting info there on various aircraft status as of late last year /january this year.
http://en.take-off.ru/component/content/article/92-current/431-current
Plenty of details in that one. A few that caught my eye:-
About Pak-fa radar
– radar for 50-5 almost ready
– achieved stable operation of the AESA radar in all air-to-air and air-to-surface modes from the outset.
– Indians to develop some subsystems of their own for FGFA using Pak-Fa radar as base.
About Bars radar
– Upgrade path agreed in principle but no contract yet
– Upgrade in two steps as we already know
– AESA array for Bars after the development of Pak-fa radar is done.
– A lighter version of BARS, Bars-130 for Yak-130
– Testing done for Upgraded Bars for Su-30Mki and Su-30SM (?).
About Irbis
– Unique target identification achieved at the range of 400km
– First Irbis equipped Tu-22 and Tu-160 in 2014.
About Zhuk-AE
– FGA-35 and FGA-29 are ready to be supplied in the near future.
– Indian Navy being offered FGA-29.
No IRST … distributed EO system like JSF?
It’s supposed to have an IRST. Maybe they haven’t settled on location or shaping of it or are unwilling to disclose it at this point.
Anyhow, a confirmation of sorts, Indian missiles, aircrafts and munitions would be moving over to a GPS-GLONASS-GAGAN system.
http://frontlineonnet.com/stories/20130222300304000.htm
The RCI has produced OBCs and MIUs on two single chips, called SOC-computer and SOC-interface, under the leadership of Narayana Murthy. It has produced, under Satheesh Reddyโs leadership, a small GPS-GLONASS-GAGAN module, weighing just 17 grams, which can be used for satellite-aided navigation of aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), micro-air vehicles and short-range tactical missiles. Reducing the size of the navigation systems, including miniaturising the OBCs and MIUs, has resulted in small-sized avionics package, thereby reducing the missilesโ weight and, therefore, giving them a longer range. This has given the DRDO missile technologists confidence to design and develop in five years missiles weighing only 10 tonnes but with a range of 2,000 km.
Well, someone’s been studying the YF-23 wing very closely indeed!
Indeed. It looks as if SH and YF-23 had a baby.


What’s the deal with ‘Nag’, have they made progress since it failed it’s field trials last year?
Underachievement at extreme end of the range is far from failure :). The existing missile (certified for reduced range) has been ordered (for ground units). Since Rudra deliveries have started, Helina deliveries should follow soon.
May 2013 is interesting! Last I heard it was as scheduled to fly in late 2013 (December IIRC?). Curious to the see if the rumoured external changes hold any water.
May 2013? You sure you heard that?
Signatory, the oracle of all things Gripen, seems to indicate May 2013 for resumed flights with Gripen Demo, no info on the first flight of a newbuilt aircraft though.
“Return to flight of #Gripen test aircraft 39-7 scheduled for May 2013 (Phase 5) fitted with digital HUD, 4 channel AESA, IRST.”
“#Gripen E flight test programme using a/c 39-7 (existing NG Demo) and future airframes 39-8, 39-9, 39-10.”
Yes, several times. ๐
My apologies, it was indeed the demo aircraft with phase-5 modifications that was being talked about and not the actual Gripen-E.
http://aeroindialive.nic.in/show_ondemand.asp?id_episode=2&id_part=2
Skip to 40:00 for a presentation on Indian Unmanned Aerial Systems Roadmap by Mr P Srikumar , ADE, DRDO.
– Rustom-1 technology demonstrator is being seriously considered (which means no orders yet)
– Rustom-2 will carry SAR, ISAR, MPR, ELINT and COMINT payloads.
– There is a discrepancy in what presenter said and what was seen on slide when talking about endurance. Presenter said ‘On target for 36 hours’ while the slide quoted an endurance of 24 hrs.
-Rustom-2 altitude stated as 10-11 Km, with a coverage of 10-11 Km wide area at a time.
-A satellite based c&c network is being set up for Rustom-2.
Future roadmap:-
Edit: Forgot to mention that there is work being carried out on LiDAR technologies as well.
-Didn’t say much about the Sudarshan LGB, just had one slide.
Found the video of the Seminars at Aero India 2013.
http://aeroindialive.nic.in/ondemand.asp#Echnical sessions 2b.
Thanks for the link ๐
Is there a link to the air India 2013 seminars clip somewhere?
If we are lucky someone would have recorded the live stream. Unfortunately my ancient laptop would have committed seppuku, had I attempted that. The presentation was less about technology and more about flight testing and program management.
May 2013? You sure you heard that?
Yes, several times. ๐
Where are the Russian Kinghts, I don’t see them yet, the mention of the team was also on a official MOD communication. Got to see……..
These are just the practice runs. The real show is from 6th to 10th feb.
I am surprised this hasn’t been posted here yet.
VIDEO: BAE releases footage of Typhoon Meteor firing
Just saw the presentation on Gripen-E on Aero India live Stream
-Main emphasis on Gripen’s USP (low cost) and how the testing program is designed to cut down costs and time scale.
-First Flight of Gripen-E in May-2013. 4 test aircrafts would be made. If necessary, production aircraft can be used for testing and changes applied throughout the lot.
-Separation of critical and non critical flight software to allow fast modifications of code and speeding up test program. The system was installed on the back seat of Gripen demonstrator to compare it with legacy system for validation.
– Joint validation teams by all agencies concerned to cut down the development phase.
– The demonstrator aircraft was completed at 60% of the allocated budget.