still don’t know why they want to put two M88/F414-class engines in a ‘5th gen’ platform to be fielded closer to 2030…
..because it is intended to be Rafale/Eurofighter/MiG-29 -ish in size.
Navy plans to issue bid for over 120 multirole choppers
PTI : New Delhi, Mon Jan 28 2013, 20:51 hrs
In could be the world’s biggest tender for helicopters, the Indian Navy is planning to issue a bid for procuring more than 120 multirole choppers expected to be worth around Rs 35,000 crore ($6.5 Billion approx).
The navy had recently issued a global request for information in this regard and has plans of acquiring more than 120 Naval Multirole Helicopters (NMRH), navy sources said here.
The navy had recently asked global helicopter vendors to provide details about their choppers in this category and is planning to issue a global request for proposal in this regard in near future, they said.
The navy is planning to procure these new NMRH for carrying out anti-submarine warfare, special forces’ operations and anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare.
The companies expected to take part in the tender include all major chopper manufacturers like European Eurocopter and Agusta Westland and American Sikorsky and Lockheed Martin.
“We are planning to offer our EC725 helicopter once the Indian Navy issues a tender for these NMRH,” Eurocopter’s Vice President for South Asia region Rainner Farid said here.
The Indian Navy is already holding a competition for procuring 16 multirole helicopters in which European NH-90 and American Sikorsky S-70 Bravo are in the race.
The navy at present relies on its fleet of Sea King helicopters which were inducted in two different phases in the 80s.
The navy would require these multirole choppers in view of its expanding fleet size and expansion in its area of responsibility with the government stating that country’s strategic interest ranges from the Gulf of Aden to the Malacca Straits.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/navy-plans-to-issue-bid-for-over-120-multirole-choppers/1065838/
The current tender for 16 helicopters for the same role has been stuck in litigation for very long and in all probability, might get cancelled as even the extended commercial bids were supposed to expire in January 2013. The new tender suggests that Navy expects it to get cancelled.
Twinblade,
Seriously – if they do that, I will be mega surprised. One of the focus areas of the MMRCA was to get aircraft asap with the MMRCA…replacing the Spectra?
Seems doubtful, especially given the Mirage 2000 upgrade does not have an Indian made EW suite and will have the standard ICMS, again to save time and integration expense.
Perhaps they are referring to yet another Indian jammer being integrated onto the aircraft as an additional payload for enhanced coverage. All the latest Indian ones are integral to the aircraft (RWJ etc) but two were displayed as wingtop podded units for the Super 30 MKI model. Still don’t know whether those were from DARE or the Russian SAP pods though.
I wonder what AKM is referring to when he says BEL will get onboard for integration of SAR and EW suits(sic.)… since the SAR payload for UAVs is still under development by LRDE and a podded version is not (yet available) and the RBE-2 AA will itself have SAR.
If they are talking of integrating Israeli/third party SAR, why do they need BEL for that, confusing.
If I were to risk a guess, the first batch would be equipped with standard spectra. From subsequent blocks onwards they might replace the peripherals in Spectra by local substitutes (RWR, MLD, SSTRU, LWS) while keeping the core from the original spectra. I guess it will have to be one of those ‘wait and watch’ news snippets.
It mentions the 110 km range and another report mentions VKS asking for Astra redesign to the new standard. So do this mean the MK1 was dropped and they directly moved to the MK2 (100 km+)?
Astra: MK1 variant was to have Range max of 80 km, MK2 of 110 km. Missile was redesigned in 2010-12 and underwent series of trials in 2012, with problems stated to be resolved and complete redesign done. Range now suggested as 100 km+. Perhaps MK2 variant?
I doubt that is the case. The range of Astra changes depending on whoever is reporting. Some outlets quote the head on range at 8km altitude, some at 15 Km and some quote the tail chase range at 15Km alt. Astra mk-2 was supposed to have dual pulse motor and a range in excess of 150Km (at what launch altitude?) with minimum change of dimensions (the rocket motor being around 2060mm long only). I doubt that has been achieved right now.
Any word whether Indian Rafale’s will have AESA or not?
AESA radar was one of the most vital requirements of the MMRCA. Rafale has anyhow moved on the AESA radars now, with the last PESA equipped Rafale rolled out this week (link).
HYDERABAD, January 27, 2013
India successfully test-fires underwater missile
Y. MALLIKARJUN
T. S. SUBRAMANIANIndia on Sunday successfully test-fired the underwater ballistic missile, K-15 (code-named B05), off the Visakhapatnam coast, marking en end to a series of developmental trials.
In its twelfth flight trial, the 10-metre tall Submarine-Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM) lifted off from a pontoon, rose to an altitude of 20 km and reached a distance of about 700 km as it splashed down in the waters of the Bay of Bengal near the pre-designated target point.
According to scientific advisor to the Defence Minister V.K. Saraswat, the missile was tested for its full range of 700 km and the mission met all its objectives. He said the impact accuracy of the medium range strategic missile was in single digit.
With the completion of developmental trials, the process of integrating K-15 missile with INS Arihant, the indigenously-built nuclear submarine, will begin soon. As many as 12 nuclear-tipped missiles, each weighing six tonnes will be integrated with Arihant, which will be powered by an 80 MWt (thermal) reactor that uses enriched uranium as fuel and light water as coolant and moderator.
Interesting tidbit about upcoming nuclear subs. Not one, but two subs are being built in parallel !
Meanwhile the reactor has been integrated with the submarine and it was expected to go critical in May/ June 2013. Once that was done, the harbour trials will begin.
Besides Arihant, three other nuclear-powered submarines were being constructed — one at Visakhapatnam and two at Vadodara. India is also developing K-4 missile with a range of 3,000 km.
It means they have roped in Pipavav Shipyards for nuclear sub construction !!
As expected, Rafale might have an Indianised EW suite on-board.
http://newindianexpress.com/nation/article1437528.ece
Sources told Express that the proposed MoU, likely to be signed during Aero India 2013, will be different from BEL’s existing JV with Thales. The MoU will get propelled when India’s Ministry of Defence signs the Rafale deal officially with Dassault. The MoU will enable BEL get onboard Rafale for the integration of the synthetic aperture radars (SAR) and electronic warfare (EW) suits, among others.
Guys, keep an eye out for details (especially you, Teer 🙂 )
I don’t think I’ve seen the Indian MiG-29UPG with Kh-31s before:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/India—Air/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29UPG/2218049/L/
Which is odd, as this photo appears to have been taken during MAKS 2011 – you’d expect a handful of images to have turned up, with so many cameras available to snap one!
That is definitely a new one.
Apologies for posting a video in the pics thread, but this Mirage-2000 video is awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m15Jd1A5OPU&feature=player_embedded
Welcome to 2007.
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2 LCH prototypes
By Anantha Krishnan M
Express News Service
Guruvayoor: Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) said on Friday that it has completed development flights on two prototypes of Light Combat Helicopter (LCH), towards basic system checks, air inlet survey and performance. Test flights for performance, handling qualities and measurement of loads have also been carried out at Bangalore and Chennai. “The sea-level trials carried out at Chennai were as per the script and the baseline reference data has been acquired. Towards complying crashworthy requirements, landing gear drop tests have been completed satisfactorily. Breakaway fuselage has been built and limit-load testing has been completed successfully,” HAL chairman R K Tyagi told Express.
When asked about the feedback from prototype flight testing, Tyagi said that various design improvements have been implemented to fine tune handling qualities, speed and vibration. “Further flight testing is under progress towards development and certification of basic systems. So, far both LCH technology demonstrators (TD-1 & TD-2) have completed 85 and 83 flights respectively,” Tyagi said.
To a query regarding the technology challenges being faced by HAL towards developing LCH, HAL chairman said that currently his team is focusing on validating design objectives, based on flight tests. “Based on the flight test results, necessary design improvements are being made. We haven’t faced any major technical problems so far,” he claimed. The LCH production variants are planned during the year 2015-16.
HAL plans to build the third prototype this year, incorporating all improvements. The integration of indigenous cockpit display system (Integrated Architecture and Display System), mission sensors and weapon systems are planned towards initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCH. “That’s the focus right now to get the IOC in place,” Tyagi added. HAL is yet to name the beast, but would do so soon, in consultation with its customer.
During the upcoming Aero India 2013, the LCH TD-2 (in camouflaged colours) will be at the static display area, while TD-1 will be doing the flying duties for HAL.
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/01/combat-chopper-programme-on-right.html
Seems like project ‘AWACS-India’ is gathering some steam. A report by the uncrowned champions of DDM, the press trust of India.
http://www.business-standard.com/generalnews/news/india-takesawacs-programme-can-penetrate-enemy-territory/114563/
India takes up AWACS programme, can penetrate enemy territory
Press Trust of India / Bangalore January 25, 2013, 16:15
India has just taken up development of the Rs 6,000 crore Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) that will have the capability to penetrate “longer distances” enemy territory by way of radars and electronic warfare systems without venturing into the region physically, a top defence official said today.
Interesting tidbit from this report:-
Meanwhile, Saraswat also said that the DRDO has conducted a flight of “guided bomb”. “It’s a bomb which can fly for about 40-50 or even more kilometres in a guided mode and it can be released from an aircraft”.
He said the guided bomb is a totally indigenous effort, from designing, development and realisation including explosive content in them, as also guidance and control.
I remember one such exhibit from last AeroIndia by a Gurgaon based firm, Basant Aerospace, called ‘Smart wing adapter kit for general purpose bombs’ or simply SWAK with a range of 80Km. I wonder if they are related.

By Anantha Krishnan M
Express News ServiceBangalore: The Indian Army will be handed over the first two weapon system integrated (WSI) version of Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH-Mk-IV) Rudra, during Aero India 2013. Confirming to Express on Thursday, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) chairman R K Tyagi said that Rudra will also be available for customer demonstration flights at show. “Rudra will definitely add more teeth to Indian Army and we will roll out more production units to the squadron,”Tyagi said. Express had earlier reported that around 70 Rudras will fly out of HAL to meet Army’s initial requirements.
“In addition to the redundant flight critical systems, IR suppressor, armour panels, crashworthy features, self-sealing fuel tanks enhance the survivability of the helicopter in the battlefield environment,” Tyagi said. Rudra can carry a mix of weapons, providing it with capability to search and destroy any target. Systems like electro-optic pod, helmet-mounted sight, fixed sight facilitating firing of the onboard weapons (20 mm turret gun, 70mm rockets and Air-to-Air missiles), makes Rudra an unforgiving machine.
He said Rudra’s rigid rotors have extremely high agility and manoeuvrability. With its higher powered engine, the chopper can undertake missions up to altitudes of 6 km. “With such capabilities, Rudra is unmatched in the world, in its class,” claims Tyagi.
Tyagi confirmed that HAL has plans to integrate additional new systems on Rudra, including Infra Red jammer, Data Link, obstacle avoidance system (for Army), wire cutter (for IAF) and NBC (Nuclear Biological and Chemical) sensors.
When asked about ALH Dhruv’s (earlier version of Rudra) export status, Tyagi said three more countries have shown interest in these choppers. Over 130 Dhruv helicopters are in operation now, with Indian Army flying 110 and 12 with Indian civil operators. Ecuador, Nepal, Mauritius and Maldives also operate Dhruv choppers.
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/01/hal-to-hand-over-2-rudra-choppers-to.html
Su-30MKI
for the Russian Air Force – 1.2 billion rubles / $ 40 million
for the Indian Air Force – 2.6 billion rubles / $ 87 millionSu-34
Russian Air Force to 0.9 – 1.1 billion rubles / $ 37 million
Actually the last contract that was signed was for half the value you are quoting, at around $40 mil each. There was a separate contract for engines so I think that might not have been included in the $40 mil. The last flyaway cost quoted for a ‘made in India’ Su-30 was around $50-$60 mil late 2011. http://www.icast.org.in/news/2011/nov11/nov02ia.pdf
India signs deal with GE for 99 F-414 engines for the Tejas Mk2, plus 100 options.
That works out to $54 million for 99 engines..that’s a LOT cheaper than reports in the past that put the F-414 engine price at around $1 million + apiece..and this with ToT for maintaining the engines in India.
I think Vikas is right, you are missing a zero there 😉