Originally posted by MINIDOH
Whilst I agree tottally with MM, I also agree with Martin. What are us wannabees suppossed to do??? We pay approx £60,000, just for the ATPL (F) course!!! We have to get work. However, I dont think people should blame the wannabees. If the other pilots when Ryanair hadnt worked for such poor pay and such a terrible life style then they wouldnt be able to get away with it. Because they accepted to contracts Ryanair can continue to go on like it because other airlines like BA will only hire the best, and if you arent the best then how do you get a job? Ryanair, Easyjet… thats the only option at the moment. But then again, in my opinion, if you arent the best (I dont mean academically, intelligence is not just academic) then I dont think you should be a pilot!
i dont believe i was blaming the wannabees. I simply suggested a reason as to why the conditions set by the likes of Ryanair are tollerated to the degree that they are by crews…..
won’t many crews simply see working for the likes of Ryanair as simply a career stepping stone??
Am i right in thinking that most cabin and flightdeck crews now begin their careers in positions on regional or lowcost airlines; move to charter carriers and then to larger international carriers? If thats the case and individuals want that gradual progression then surely a few months or years with a carrier like Ryanair will be more than tolerable if it gives them footing required to do overnight stays in tropical destinations with airlines who provide employees with more benefits?
On another note, perhaps the crews who are immediately willing to pay training/introduction costs are basic aviation nuts who want nothing more than to work in the industry or people who simply didnt make it through similar processes with other airlines!?
LGKR
cool – cant say i’ve heard of them matthew but good to see some new routes and another middle eastern airline doing well!!
why the sarcasm andrewm?
its cool – really different as well!! would brighten up the tarmacs during polish winters wouldnt it!?
anyone know where the A320’s are coming or have come from!?
cheers,
LGKR
is this close source the MD of Belfast Airport Andrewm – a guy you’ve told me quite alot about in the past??? 😀
like kev said before, i would take everything guy says with a pinch of salt, hes not worth the hassle!!! 😉
sorry guys but im finding it really hard to grasp the fact that you think Ryanair arn’t safe to fly? If this was the case to the degree some members are mentioning then would the airline still be flying the hundereds (or thousands) of flights that they do everyday?
I accept the fact that locos (perhaps because of the shear nature of their business – high utilisation, low turnaround flights) dont commit to non-essential maintenace as regularly as BA or Bmi perhaps would do (even sweet wrappers in the seat pockets wouldnt bother me) but certainly dont accept the fact that they would fly “un-air-worthy” aircraft.
For one, i believe that a single accident involving Ryanair aircraft would possibly begin to be the end for the airline. i think the media would start its cheap fares = unsafe a/c hype and thus dramatically affect the turnover and profitability of the airline – particuarly after the recent media coverage about cost cutting luxuries from a/c and the subsidy rulings. If you think about it in a business sense do you think Ryanair wouldn’t have thought about bits like this through; looking at what results poorly maintained birds may hold for the airline in the long run!? :rolleyes:
i dont think many will have those kind of specs to hand and won’t estimating be a silly thing to do?
matthew murray is probably the best guy to ask about specific specifications, send a pm..
the Finnair A319 looks really cool, love the livery on all of their buses to be honest. Do Finnair operate or plan to operate the A318???
find out yourself… lol
try the airbus site or airliners.net
that would look pretty cool on the apron, might try and get up there for a few pics…
6 years old from NCL – CFU on a CKT 752 in 1991 – a really classy airline!!!
loved the tartan uniforms, the seats and the service. the livery was really cool too, can anyone tell me whether or not the CKT livery was really meant to be a BA Landor off-shoot!?!?
cheers,
LGKR
u read the book!?
lol brilliant – its made my night!!!
strange if nothing else – arnt UA still storing birds in the desert?? selling a few off would generate some working capital wouldnt it – with no direct impact on ops. then again; i suppose it would depend which a/c Thai wanted to purchase!? if it is 744 then i dont see any real issues. any thoughts!??