Argh! F**king idiots.
The carriers should have been designed with catapults since the start. Who on earth bothers to build a carrier that big that needs a STOVL aircraft? Insane. Absolutely insane.
Now, put catapults on it. It will pay off in the long run. Don’t continue to be idiots and even debate the matter.
So basically, you’re expecting a new T-50 variant? With, for example, different what exactly? What are your guesses?
I would imagine it’ll be a conventional 2-seater to begin with.
What are the possibilities really?
(1) Two-seater.
(2) Carrier capable.
(3) Enlarged strike variant.
(4) Single engined.
We can discount the last (4), it would be a completely new aerodynamic concept and new airframe.
Any of the other three are possible, however with the MiG-29K purchase for Kuznetsov, the Russian Navy have no need of a new combat aircraft in the near future, so (2) is unlikely, and Kuznetsov is in (or soon will be in) for refit at the moment anyway.
Leaving (1) and (3). The two-seater or the enlarged strike variant.
You pays your money and you takes your choices…. 🙂
A pity we don’t have such a person around.
Doesn’t matter if there is or not.
Such information would not be posted on here.
Oh, and the quantitative performance estimations aren’t that accurate. A reasonable margin of error may be as high as 10%. While that may sound OK in isolation, it can easily mean performance differentiators get lost in the ‘noise’ when comparing systems.
BTW I think the Gripen won mostly on politics in Swizerland.
It won because it was the cheapest and by far the best fit for requirements*.
The swiss don’t need a big twin, long ranged fighter.
*yep, obviously the pilots would love the jet with the most bells and whistles, which was reflected in the Swiss Air Force ratings – but there is more to running a country than satisfying the egos of a few pilots.
Israel by none and Iran by the NPT signed in free will in short form. Of cause the Iran can cancel that but did not for good reasons.
Does breaking the NPT give others the right to… lets face it, engage in acts of war… against the breaker of the NPT?
Air dominance?!?!
WTF are they smoking? 😀
Nonsense claims from *** to stay polite.
A big long post that pointedly failed to answer the question.
Under what law is either Israel or Iran prohibited from making weapons?
If Iran withdrew from the NPT – then they are doing absolutely nothing illegal.
If Iran remain within the NPT – then they may be doing nothing illegal, development of a heavy water reactor in itself is not illegal. Nor is developing the slightly enriched uranium it requires.
Furthermore, under the NPT – no other country has the legal right to actively deny Iran the right internally develop the technology and processes to build its own bomb – I believe this may apply even if Iran does not withdraw from the NPT – it gets fuzzy at this point.
Obviously – from a common sense point of view – it would be f**king nuts to allow a country with such an… erratic… (anyone think of a better word?) leadership to control nuclear weapons. However common sense =/= legal and didn’t answer the post you quoted.
I’m comfortable with my assertion that the humble gun will prove of more use long-term to CAS than PGMs.
PGMs are only as good as the thing guiding them. The obvious tactic of any enemy will be to try to disrupt the guidance communication from land/plane to munition. Be that through laser dazzling or similar.
NOW will get an A-10 shot down in a denied environment long before it get’s close enough to use its gun.
More rubbish from the master.
If an A-10 is carrying out CAS and doing so through NOE – it will be over flying friendly lines, then taking out any large anti-air through PGMs.
After which comes the honking big gun.
Oh, and how does an F-35 take out anti-air? Using HARMs? Oh, no, wait a second…
Again with comparing the rarest CEP of a PGM with the best CEP of a gun?
That would be standard for a gun. Within plus-minus dozen yards or so.
When the PGM goes wrong, it goes wrong in a big way.
You obviously aren’t willing to accept that in the real world, a PGM carries much higher risk for the troops on the ground than a gun.
Buildings, bunkers, trenches, etc. They can also scatter which again limits the effectiveness of the gun run.
There is not one of those things listed that will stand up to a 30 mil cannon burst and you already know that.
Their chances of survival are better while taking cover from the GAU-8 that they know is coming than from a pgm that they do not know is on its way.
Which is of course why the A-10 is so ineffective in Afghanistan (or was so ineffective in Iraq).
Oh, no, wait a second…
Get out of your books and into the real world – you’ll find its startlingly different from what Janes would have you believe.
Seriously? You’re bringing up very rare errors and trying to compare it to the normal use of the gun?
Yep. This might come as a shock to you; there is much more to accuracy than just CEP.
Who gives a **** if your reliably less than 5 yards* away with a gun if your PGM doesn’t work and is 500 yards away?
*Unless your insinuating the USAF personnel flying the A-10 aren’t very good and have significantly degraded accuracy with their guns?
so they can take cover thereby making the GAU-8 even less effective).
Cover?
Please tell me – behind what?
What happens to the A-10 with CAS in denied airspace?
Nap-of-earth, pop-up, fire off anti-radar or PGM. Then use the gun.
The F-35 releases its 2 JDAMS. Then goes home. I’m sure the troops are happy.
LG PGMs will always be more accurate than a gun.
No, they absolutely won’t.
The cannon round follows a straight (well, parabolic I suppose) curve from the muzzle to the ground.
A PGM has a significant time delay from release to ground, and is dependent on external guidance. That guidance is interrupted, then the munition is inaccurate. If the guidance software is malfunctioning, then the munition is inaccurate. If the tactical situation on the ground changes, then you cannot react. 3 problems that do not occur with a cannon round.
To stay serious a gun is the least important weapon in todays fighter weaponary.
Absolute utter rubbish.
If you were serious about matching capability to requirement, you’d realise that a strong gun is probably the most important thing any prospective A2G aircraft needs to have.
Look at the last 2 decades. Pretty much every time A2G action has required precise targeting and target discrimination with close friendly troops on the ground.
You are not comparing like with like – you need to price a missile against the cost of a burst of cannon rounds, and Gatling guns get through ammo at a prodigious rate.
Erm… I kinda did (last sentence). 🙂
2. The gun requires that you fly low & slow directly towards the target. PGMs allow a much safer and more accurate engagement of a target.
It can do. Not always.
However, lets examine… say… a current war. A current war where the grunts request air support. The A-10 is low and slow enough to discern the wheat from the chaff, it is armoured so can take any small arms fire, it has two engines so power loss doesn’t equal instant bail-out and it can fall back on PGMs if need be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eD_Lo61rAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pBfrt_anf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKRt2DYMvdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYCO23d6Oxs
Good luck doing that with your little dinky toy of a JSF.
The number of rounds for the A-10 was high due to the high cost and low availability of smart anti-tank munitions.
So the likes of Brimstone are cheap?
£100K a pop thank you very much.
Cheaper than an airframe, but damned if they aren’t much more expensive than some 25mm rounds.
With the advent of the Hellfire, Brimstone, JAGM, LG-Hydra, JDAM, SDB, etc… the space for a large amount of rounds is no longer needed.
If those named are that effective… why bother with the cannon at all.
For instance, how is an F-35 ever going to suppress opposing infantry to allow friendly troops to pull back?