The 787 looks a bit better with the new colour scheme 🙂 But the B777-300er is the bizz (got to admit I really like the 777) 😀
And for the A380 well some one must like it, just not me :p
I think you mean BCal, though in fact they were delivered to BA after the two companies merged.
Some were Bcal and some Dan Air with them being delivered after the takovers it hard to figure out which ones which
Woah.
Either they have a very low cycle limit or BA really worked them hard.
It would tie in with the 5B-DAT in the picture , it was 18 years old as well,
My first reaction to them being withdrawn was to speculate that they would all be off to the African Subcontinent , but I was surprised when told they were to be scrapped especially being of younger age ( if you known what i mean)
Remember these 320 have been used for most of their lives on shuttle duties with maybe at most 2 hours flying per sector would give them a possible 6-8 landings and takeoffs per day and over the years roughly 52416 landing -takeoffs in their life times
interesting little factoid.
Cycle limit as in the overall for the airframe, or a self imposed limit at which they (BA) prefer to get rid?
Overall for the airframe , The G- BUS* Range are all ex Dan Air ,
“Would have been” 😉
BA Have just started to dispose of their older 320s, first one was BUSD which was 18 Years old as well , the reson for it’s removal was it had reached Its cycle limit
Here are some I had on my HD of BA 330-200 and BA 787-8 from Modified photos site
Cheers for That , A330 looks stunning , 🙂 not quite sure about the 787
There are economical reasons for not going with the 380, The biggest and most important to BA , is the ability to fill it with passengers , even on their High density routes , It better to send a 747 three quarters full than sending the A380 Half full and with a lot of its route they would be looking to combine a couple of flights just for a single A380 flight , to me and you this would make a lot of sense but to airlines not so
My Predictions
The A330 maybe a good choice for the 767 , It would give BA a bit of flexibility, that they don’t have with the 767, favourite
The A340 has never even been an option for BA , fallen at first fence
The A350 as you Said Sandy unknown to everyone , but to me Mr Walsh seems to be very Keen on the aircraft Outsider
A380 Outsider (wasnt even going to rate it)
All Airbus Fleet pretty slim
B777 Certainty
B787 still unknown outsider
B747 -(800 or what ever its called) Updated version of the 400, which BA have experience A good bet favourite
All Boeing Fleet Pretty slim
If you take a look how the fleet is split the majority of short haul is Airbus and the Long haul Boeing and I think that may be they way it stays with the only addition being the 330 in the medium to long haul
The 767 are due to be replaced in the next few Years, so hence the A330 option, and remember he got rid of the 747,s at Aer lingus and replaced them with the A330 But the biggest surprise is the fact that BA have said very little about the 787 and i think thats because BA and Beoing have fall out a bit about BA short haul fleet
I would agree with you on the 747-8 and 777 for long haul ,but im not as convinced for the 380
With Mr Walshes record at Aer Lingus ,could Boeing be more than willing to bend over back wards to stop him going down the same road with BA
It certainly going to be a very intreasting time for Both Boeing ,Airbus and BA
The rumour I had heard was BA were looking at A330 for the 767, ( I think the A330 would look great In BA colours) may be Sandy could do one for us 😀
The Inside Grumblings seem to be siding towards either Airbus 330,350 Boeing 747-800 and B777 with the A380 bring up the Rear
But with BA we will only really known when they arrive , or don’t
The rumblings from Inside would suggest that Boeing would be the preferd choice ,as Ba have already experiance with both the 747 and777 the infastucture is already inplace ,so would not cost as much to upgrade ,compared to starting from scratch with Airbus also Im lead to belive there might be some issues with delivery slots for the A380
I have to admit I would like to see either A380, or 340 variant in BA colours.
BA Said it would not look at the A380 until it had been in service for at least 3 years and all of the small issues that usually occur have been resolved, They also said they would not be the launch customer for any new aircraft ever again
My biggest Worry about the 787 Is the one piece composite fuselage , Other Aircraft manufactures have not followed in Boeing’s footsteps Why?
The technology may have advanced ,but have they managed to solve the problems associated with composite material
If Boeing have managed to resolve these problems , then brilliant we will at last have a major step in aircraft design, if not then Boeing and the airlines may well a have a very large millstone around their necks
The Only certainty In life is we will die. I don’t think that The B787 will fall apart at V1 ,but they said That the Titanic was Unsinkable, The computers have churned out the data that say Yes it will fly, but this data is as only as good as the person who typed it into the computer and the guy who wrote the software
( and how many time have you heard form a Utility company “the computer is all ways right”)
I agree that the 787 is yet to prove itself however there is something known as IN ADVANCED STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT . When you verify production techniques , test Barrels , have major Electrical systems running , start to fabricate major parts , complete a section of the fues. (i think at Wichita or SC) etc etc then you are moving away from the PAPER PLANE that it was years ago !! The 787 is begining to take shape and will fly in about 10 months .
You cant fly a completed section you need to join the other sections, tail , wings, engines etc,etc to make a aircraft and the only place where its a complete aircraft , Is on Paper
So what revolutionary breakthrough has made Composites more viable since July of this year ? From what I make of it the 350 wont be a single peice monolithic CFRP fuesalage like the 787 but would be a collections of CFRP panels mounted on a frame ( which may be made of Al or Al-Li or even CFRP) .
And that means what ? The 787-8 is in its final stage of development ( The first fues section has just been opened from the packaging for the first frame) with close to 10 months before first flight whereas the A350 hasnt even been launched (AGAIN)
Has the 787 flown ? Answer NO ,,has it been Built? answer NO then its still a paper plane,Until it has flown we only have computer models and design figure to go on “Paper FACTS” no real time data
The A350 is a paper Plane its still under design , and until it flies it will be a paper plane
A380 , is in the middle of certification flights
B747 Super Guppy to start flights for certification
Can you spot the difference,
Airbus can be as cautious as they want. They’ve not progressed their composite technology quite as much as Boeing seem to have in this case.
Thats whats got them rattled.Leahy has been using the “Not the best route” and “Unknown repairability” argument since the 7E7 was launched. He used it to justify the 787s slow start even.
The fact that the technology now has 35 customers with over 400 orders proves that things are not us “unknown” as Leahy likes to make it seem.
This sound quiet familiar , I’m sure we had this same discussion about the composite material research and why Airbus had not gone down the Whole composite material fuselage route,last Year
The 787 is still a paper plane , it has yet to be flown and the technologies employed yet to be proven,