Hmm, I see here a lot of undue discredit done to BA. Some seem to think they were arrogant or too stubborn. And are to blame for concorde no longer flying.
Well, if they were stubborn, it was in the other direction. They invested something like £12 million in a new interior for their fleet that was lighter and would improve efficiency. Now, is that the action of an Airline that would willfully pull a plane out of service? Especially when the interiors had just been delivered and were awaiting installation?
I don’t think so.
There is also reason to believe that when Airbus announced it was withdrawing Concorde’s certificates and stopping the manufacture of spares, that BA tried to negotiate control of both the Certificate and Spare parts, even willing to buy up the engineers and specifications. Airbus refused.
It is also said that BA approached Air France to part out their already retired fleet. Air France refused, despite the fact that one of their planes had flown for the last few years mainly on BA spare parts.
If either are true, even in part, its pretty damning toward Airbus and Air France.Also, remember that BA is the only one out of the two airlines that made money operating Concorde.
However, undeniable fact is that Airbus withdrew all manufacturer support. They pulled Concordes certificates. Without either of these, let alone both, no one could operate Concorde commercially. Regardless how much money Branson threw at BA.
The fault is collective. If anything BA are an innocent party. In my opinion it is clear that BA were planning on operating Concorde beyond her eventual retirement date.
I’m more willing to believe that the French consorted to stop BA, a British airline, being the only Supersonic airline.
There has always been a certain degree of jealously between the French and British. Many silly things have come about as a result. So if you think about it, its not at all far fetched.
For Once We both see eye to eye on a matter Sandy
Kevin
Agent K
Very true indeed, but they could have given someone else the oportunity of operating the a/c rather than putting them in situations whereby they become useless. .That action was a wicked waste of technology. BA still technically own them to stop anyone else getting their hands on them. Speaks volumes to me that!
Concorde was a very demanding aircraft in services , it used old Technology. which was time comsuing and expensive, BA had discovered that in one of the aircraft that a major component , the main wing spar had cracked prices to repair was quoted at about £3-£8million per plane , The airframe and Avionics could not be upgraded due to weight ( the more she weighed, the less she carried)and space constraints then Airbus Withdrew Support,(stopped producing parts to keep it airworthy)
B.A did the right thing , retiring her with Grace, They had 30 odd years of experience in operating her , and have the enviable reputation of not losing one aircraft in that time Something that we all Should be proud of
I would rather see her in her former condition in a museum than watch some other operator run her into the ground ( remember there are no longer any on the shelf new parts coming from AIRBUS ) so at least the rest of the fleet would have to be sacraficed just to keep one flying
And for those who keep harking on about getting her flying again , time to smell the coffee and take a drink of reality “she never will “
I agree The Polar in the Mist is a stuning shot 🙂
Kevin
Interesting story there……….. Anyone know where the 707 currently is?? I never knew there was a Qantas 707 in the UK.
Hi Tartan,
Southend seems to ring a bell , not to sure were I read the article but i had seen that they were to acquire one and Im sure it was at Southend in the article
Kevin
Another thought,
Number 1 engine , is this the Left Engine?,Now if this is correct Following reasoning
The pilot could not start engines while passengers were boarding, a bit dangerous if the front door is open and the stairs are connected, I know that at Glasgow 1 Passenger was killed Many Years ago when the pilot started the engines (ATP) whilst passengers were boarding and a passenger decided to walk straight into one of the Props
I don’t know if I buy the Airliners.net answer. Not all airplanes boarded from the left in those early days. For example the Ford Tri-motor.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1100662/M/
Because that’s how horses are mounted? I really can’t imagine that’s it. What about helicopters? Or that a number of the folks in the world drive on the right side of the car?
My guess is because the Captain sits on the left side it’s easier for him to taxi the aircraft into and out of the boarding area. It would be very difficult and probably lead to more accidents if the captain had to approach the jetway or stairs if it was on the far side of the airplane. With such equipment on his side he can easily position the aircraft near the jetway since he can see it out his window.
my first flight was in the cockpit of a London bound 757 , the S/O did the landing and the taxied the 757 on to the Gate,without any difficulty ,
I think it would be some thing to do with the way some airports are built , i know at Glasgow if you were to deplane from the right then the gates closest to the main terminal could not be used ( allso would casue a lot of problems when pushing the aircraft back on to the taxiways on the Ramp)
Just a thought
Kevin
Cheers all,
G-PIK, Prestwicks ok if you have the patience and a good book :p ,I might even be tempted to go to Edinburgh some time, but I think a trip to Stanstead is on the cards In December
Kevin
Hi Fred
Stunning shots there,That’s the first shots I have seen from a D400 and looking soooo good
Kevin
Great Pics there Tartan,
Heres what I managed of the US from The Trident Gate
They say theres a pot of Gold at the end of the Rainbow, what can you say
Kevin
Thanks Guys
Tony , Just recovering now , never ran so far in such a long time and never again
Kevin
very like the Russian Beriev A40 Albatros & BE42 Mermaid of the 8o,s
Sppoky stuff,Kevin.
Good shots too.
Now start thinking of 4 A380s coming to GLA one breaking and the AN225 coming to the rescue 😀 😀 😀
Not tonight I’ve got a headache :p :p
cheers anyway Guys
Cheers for the comments lads.
James, the AB does GLA-STN twice a day.
Damian i think you were the only local not there today, I’m sure i even saw a burger van and ice cream van at gate 3 😀 😀 😀
I, some of us had to work today :p :p
popped down early to see OY-VKB , which was in full MYT colour scheme , it showed up at 0730ish and I saw it depart at 0855, missed the rest but the Air Greenland was on stand at the tower and the MD82 was on stand 34-35 tonight
Great pictures though
Showed Up Again today 16th , overcast , but at least it was,nt raining this time
Grate pics of the EMB and the DH8 , well worth waiting for
Kevin