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  • in reply to: Turboprop oldies part 3 #489492
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    At the time, those of us working at STN did expect to see Maersk at STN, as they already had a full charter operation there with 737-200s.

    And here it is at STN back in the early 80’s (what a lovely livery for that era)…

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/Maersk732oy-mbwstn84sarah.jpg

    in reply to: More Turboprop oldies #489494
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    when did it become fashionable to change a red number when change of ownership?
    ie the Invicta Vanguard kept its original reg, but nowadays as planes change airlines the reg changes more often than not

    As I recall, in the 1960s registrations were given out sequencially only. If a former British registerer aeroplane came back from foreign ownership to took back its original serial. About the early 1970s out of sequence registrations became available to aircraft owners. For example Concorde 002 (our first prototype) was originally registered as G-AXDN and flew at Farnborough with that serial. Shortly afterward it was re-registered G-BSST so I would guess this was the time that the CAA changed aircraft registration regulations allowing owners to choose a ‘custom’ letter set. So you have custom registerd fleets like BOAC’s Concorde fleet G-BOAA, BOAB, BOAC… and EasyJet’s 737 fleet.

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489505
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    Thanks, VeeOne…it was a strategic error shooting black&white though 🙂 Did you use transparency or colour neg? A close one with the TWA 747 then …a bit of JT9D throttle and you could have flipped over

    I started using Tri-X (black and white) because it was cheap to take lots of pics and develop and print them myself. But then I went to transparencies which were difficult as I had to under expose an aeroplane shot by 1/2 stop because of the white body of the airliner. If I got it wrong the slide film had very limited exposure tolerance and a picture could be too burned out or too dark.

    I seem to have lost many of my old photos from my flying days. I was looking for photos I took of a Trident inside and out at BEA Base but no, they’re gone, like my figure!

    I like your shot of the BKS Trident after takeoff from 10R with the viewing area on T2 behind it. Oh, think how it would have looked in colour! I notice you also tried colour in some of your photos.

    Do you remember a website in the late 1990s called the Airline History Website? Well that was me. I am sure I must have contacted you for permission to use some of your photos on the site. I contacted just about everyone on Airliners Net who posted such photos from the golden era. Pity we cannot post some of these pictures that others have taken back then. There are some truly good photographs of Tridents, Vanguards, etc from the time you were at lhr. I still have some of them from the history website days in a folder.

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489508
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    Miliray 707s – the start and end of the story

    The 707 started life as the KC-135 and after airline use has finished it continues its life as re-engined KC tankers. And E3 Sentry AWACS. Good to see the USAF are keeping this lovely shape in our skies (even with the dish on top).

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/100_4908.jpg

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489513
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    Great thread VeeOne, and wonderful pics too. They do bring back so many nice memories of that era thats sadly gone now. God, the times, I as a 14yr old in the early 70’s with pals caught the coach from Southampton to Hatton or the Travellers rest for a days spotting, bus to the Queens building and pure bliss, what great days. As you say each aircraft was so easily recognisable then. and the noise!!! thats probably has something to do with me being a bit mutton jeff now, but would never have missed it for the world.
    May I ask what you used to fly?

    Keep em coming Sarah

    Easty

    Wow! You travelled all that way for a day at LAP? That’s dedication. 🙂 I never got beyond General Aviation flying. I agree, our ears are more delicate in childhood and a 707 crossing the hedge 200 feet above would hurt. that pain must have indicated sound well over 120 db, so yes, what with P&W engines and discos ears probably were damaged. When I went for a medical at British Airways they found I had a diminished hearing ability at the high end of the sound spectrum. JT-9 engines for sure (and discos)! 🙂

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489517
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    Well I suspect you had slightly more access than most but I agree that it was a whole lot easier in the 70s and with a bit of local knowledge even photographers who didn’t have an airport job could do OK. I worked behind Field’s hangar in the early 70s so had good access to LHR South

    Ah! So you are the Mick who took all those wonderful b&w photos from PanAm Maintenance area! I love these photos of Heathrow at (arguably) its best! That two-tier wooden fence that surrounded the airport boundary was just great! Pity by the mid 1970s security had started its creep over the airport. Big fence then covered big fence to stop car accidents. Then huge blast walls or whatever they are. I wish I had photos of that era but I only have a handful.
    I think the end of the great Heathrow days was about the time we lost BEA and BOAC, and the little wooden fence came down. I noticed there is still part of that boundary fence surrounding the ILS localiser array on 9R (within the main fence area). Thanks for posting your excellent ‘LAP’ nostalgia.

    Here’s a photo for you. Taken from a Aztec. We were awaiting at block 79 for 10R departure in really messy weather and very low cloud and rain. A TWA 747-200 squeezed past on the right and its wing passed overhead our twin. An Iceair 727 is rolling. The other side of the runway was VIP and BA cargo. I am sure you know that though. 😉

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/Heathrowaztecatholdforblock8110R1981.jpg

    in reply to: Turboprop oldies when aircraft looked interesting #489738
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    Hi Interflug62M

    What makes it beautiful to you? It is not well proportioned is it? Small flaps must have meant no stol ability. The An-10 was ugly and the An-12 is a massive improvement on that Soviet disaster. I once saw an An-12 with triangles (Iraqi Air Force maybe) flying overhead. It sounded sweet and looked rakish and interesting. But beautiful? hmmm… 😉
    Sarah

    in reply to: Polar Bear Aircraft #489740
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    There would have been a time that airlines would never have operated an all white aeroplane. It seems much more acceptable these days. I guess it costs a whole bunch of cash to even partially paint a leased in aircraft. I suspect this is why UN aircraft are all white with simple U.N. letters?
    Sarah

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/CapitolAirwaysdc8-61whiten915clstn84sarah.jpg

    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/MonarchAirlines732whiteg-dgdpltn84sarah.jpg

    in reply to: Turboprop oldies part 3 #489940
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    Wonderful. Some lovely liveries in there too!
    Always was partial to the Manx livery.
    I never knew Maersk operated into LHR at one point.

    You are right! This was a one-off charter by scientists coming to a convention. I believe Maersk operated this type on scheduled services to Southend at the time.

    Interflug62M – yes that is where I saw it.

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489944
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    So nice to see all those shots from a time when I never even bothered that much in looking toward the sky,”but wish I had” and better still done what you did and taken some lovely shots like these..cheers..JB:) Although I’m no expert on civil airliners I think the comet along with the 707 are such icon’s from there time most of the public know what they are.:)

    Hi JB, I agree. I think the 747 and the DC-10 were the last airliners the public could recognise. (Everyone knew the ‘jumbo jet’ and the unfortunate accidents with the DC-10 made that well known).

    Frankly I find it hard to tell the difference between the 737 series and the Airbus 318-320 series. Airliners had so much more character back then and you could even recognise them by their noise (I lived near Heathrow as a child). The VC-10 was the noisiest at climbout (until Concorde came along) but the 707 used to hurt my ears when it screamed over low with the engines at flight idle on finals. And the Convair 990 left a long black trail of engine exhaust after it on takeoff.

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489945
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    Well, sort of. I worked at STN for Servisair from 1982 until 1989 and then Gatwick Handling, but I was employed at STN. Initially, I didn’t know why we weren’t called Stansted Handling, turned out that someone local already owned the name. I finished at GH in 2001. At Servisair we used to handle many of the aircraft arriving at STN for maintenance work at what was then ATEL. Most were 707s including th blue tail Biman that I mentioned. Happy (and interesting) days;)

    What an interesting life! I only visited Stansted a couple of times and recall 707s and DC8s. I flew in once before it became too expensive to land there, and noticed the THY 707 fleet on the north of the airport.

    Here are some memories for you!

    British Cargo Airlines DC-8-50F at Stansted 1983
    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/BritishCargoAirlinesDC8-53Fg-bddestn83sarah.jpg

    Intercontiniental DC8-50 at Stansted 1983
    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/IntercontinentalDC8-625N-AVYstn83sarah.jpg

    Southern international Cargo viscount at Stansted 1983
    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/SouthernIntCargoViscount8g-bbdkstn83sarah.jpg

    TAAT Trans Arabian Air Transport DC8-50 at Stansted 1980’s
    http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/raggidoll/aviation/TAATTransArabianDC8-62stajdstn85sarah.jpg

    in reply to: Boeing 707 at the end of its life #489950
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    How did you get such good access at Heathrow, Vee-one?

    Well in the 1970s and early 1980s Heathrow wasn’t such a security monster. There were many places to go and photograph around the outside and you could still take photos from the Queen’s Building and the top of the Car Parks. Also you could go into the cargo area, down the end by the BAA admin and see cargo aeroplanes taxying up to take off on 10R. Photographing interesting aeroplanes at LAP was fun back then and I was mostly interested in the airlines’ liveries (although I was a civil pilot myself).

    My partner and I went to LAP a while back to try out a camera and I was dismayed to see how few places we could stop and take photos. He liked it because he was new to the airport and its constant activity but I saddened me that what was once a superb place to spend a sunny afternoon with a camera has become more secure than a military airbase.

    I wonder if the new batch of airliner photographers at LAP know what they missed?

    Sarah

    in reply to: Couple of olduns #490136
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    Lovely pictures John..i’ve some from the fifties and sixties somewhere..i’ll have to have a search and see if i can scan them

    I’d love to see those photos, Steve.

    in reply to: Newcastle 12th May 2011 #490140
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    The EasyJet looks like a painting. Nice effect.

    Yes. That is a superb photograph!

    in reply to: UFO over Heathrow? #490150
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    Interesting image. I have to say that it looks like a film fault to me, but I’m no expert. I have to admit however, that the object in the right hand box, does seem to look as though it is something solid being illuminated on its left side. A mystery indeed. Yes, I like the Fokker jets too, my particular favourite being the F28.

    I do agree, the Fellowship was an elegant aeroplane. Fokker airliners were classy. The Fellowship had those air brakes in the tail in the style of a military aircraft which made it look unusual on finals. I wonder if it caused the aeroplane to feel rough. I once flew on a Carevelle and into Paris we had to lose altitude due to a runway change. While the wing air brakes were deployed the aeroplane virbrated unpleasantly.

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