G-CIVT BAW84 YVR-LHR now coming in BEL-IOM-WAL. Wonder where he will start holding and G-VIIG BAW194 IAH-LHR looks like it is heading for France form the Lands End area
BAW102 G-BNWC YYC-LHR coming in over the Isle of Man but to where?
G-YMMS BAW218 DEN-LHR also over the Isle of man but has gone round in a very large holding pattern circuit. Now back on track for the South east again. Nope definately in the holding pattern near the Isle of Man
G-YMMR BAW274 LAS-LHR heading in for BEL-IOM-WAL routing but has now turned South down west coast of Ireland
The one below it I think, the serial is quite visible
C-FLOX is a 757
C-GTDG is a 320
Both from Prestwick to Manchester flew it VFR I have been told.Seems I may be wrong , have just read that are not going to MANCHESTER
There seem to be three of them heading south between 5 and 7,000 feet
What data do the UK Met Office base THEIR data on – seems like its already been discredited as an inaccurate model.
None the less, it explains why some European airlines are flying and yet the UK isn’t. It also makes it understandable why UK airlines are pressuring to be allowed to fly again.
If Eurocontrol are proven right (and I sincerely hope they are), then as I said before heads need to roll at the Met Office and at NATS.
Andy
But you haven’t answered my question, which is what data do EUROCONTROL base their graphic on? And whilst I haven’t watched their briefing video what does their graphic actually puport to show (I know the title gives an indication)? There is no explanatory key so is this areas of high ash content and if so at what levels of concentration?
Eurocontrol’s view of where the ash was at 1200GMT today:
Somewhat different to the Met Office view, which as discussed above may be based on a rather flawed model. Now do you want to explain why NATS is taking such a closed view?
Andy
And on what data do EUROCONTROL base their view on?
From the BBC…
BELGIUM – Airspace open. Limited service
BRITAIN – Airspace open over Scotland and Northern Ireland. Limited airspace over north of England. London airports closed
DENMARK – Airspace above 16,600ft open. No landings
FRANCE – Limited flights from Paris to international destinations. Most airports open
GERMANY – Airspace closed, with some exceptions, until 1800 GMT on Tuesday. Lufthansa planning to operate 200 flights
IRELAND – Airspace closed
ITALY – Airspace open. Handful of flights resumed in and out of Milan
NETHERLANDS – Airspace open. Passenger flights arriving and departing in Amsterdam
NORWAY – Airspace closed
POLAND – Airspace closed
SPAIN – Airspace open; all airports operating
SWEDEN – Airspace open over central-northern Sweden
SWITZERLAND – Airspace reopen
Looking at the radar there is very little moving over the UK , even at high altitude, nothing over France except a knot around Paris, nothing over Demark or Spain, but intense activity over Portugal. It seem anomalous – can anyone shed any light?
Depends on which site you are using.
FlightRadar24 doesn’t have any coverage over SW France whereas RadarVirtuel does and shows pretty heavy traffic streaming up from the Iberian peninsula direction
Neither show that much in the Denmark area at the moment (1252) but there have been quite a few coming over from Sweden.
One of the few originating flights showing in the UK at the moment is the Icelandair flight from Glasgow TF-FIX ICE431
Seem to be quite a few KL flights going through London airspace right now, probably taking advantage of the relaxation on overflighte mentioned in the NATA press release
Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Tuesday April 20, 0900
The situation regarding the volcanic eruption in Iceland remains dynamic and the latest information from the Met Office shows that the situation today will continue to be variable.
Based on the latest Met Office information, part of Scottish airspace including Aberdeen, Inverness and Edinburgh airports will continue to be available from 1300-1900 today, and also south to Newcastle Airport. Restrictions will remain in place over the rest of UK airspace below 20,000ft.
Overnight the CAA, in line with new guidance from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) decided flights above the ash cloud will be permitted in the UK; between 1300-1900 this will enable aircraft movements above 20,000ft in UK airspace.
We will continue to monitor Met Office information and the situation is likely to change during the course of the day. We will make a further statement at approximately 1500.
NATS is maintaining close dialogue with the Met Office and with the UK’s safety regulator, the CAA, in respect of the international civil aviation policy we follow in applying restrictions to use of airspace.
We are working closely with Government, airports and airlines, and airframe and aero engine manufacturers to get a better understanding of the effects of the ash cloud and to seek solutions.
SE-RHU VIK477P now going through Scottish airspace
Appears to be a AMS-AMS flight
I see an increasing number of commercial flights in the affected areas in France and Germany. Are they operating under ATC or have they just plugged the coordinates into the computer and are relying on TCAS for separation from any of the other flights that are up and about?
A Dutch Do228 PH-CGN is currently up and flying around Dutch airspace, presumably on monitoring flights
There are more flights showing up on
including an A340 on a test flight from Orly to Hamburg
I see that the UK VAAC are predicting that the cloud (up to FL200) will reach the east coast of Canada sometime today.